DISCLAIMER: This page, which attempts to answer frequently asked questions (FAQ), is intended as a resource to those bewildered by the restraining order process and offered because attorneys rarely dispense information or counsel freely that they could bill for. The replies below are those of this blog’s author, whose knowledge of restraining orders and restraining order abuses is grudging and unqualified by any formal education in the law. I’m a writer, not an attorney. If in doubt, consult a licensed professional.
If you are the defendant in a restraining order case (that is, if you are the recipient of a restraining order), especially one based on false/fraudulent allegations:
- Read the court’s order front to back so that you understand its restrictions and expectations to the letter. Be able to quote it from memory.
- Immediately apply to the court for an appeals hearing if you haven’t already been assigned one. This will provide you with an opportunity to contest the restraining order applicant’s allegations and have the order quashed (that is, negated, nullified, canceled). You can do this by mail, by phone, or by visiting the courthouse.
- File a motion for continuance with the court to request a postponement of your appeals hearing to provide you with additional time to find and consult with an attorney (if within your means), gather evidence (which may include affidavits from witnesses), and prepare your defense. This is just a matter of going to the courthouse, explaining to the clerk what you’re after, and filling in a few lines on a form. You may even be able to do this by phone. Have your case number handy. The worst that can happen is that your motion is denied.
- Request a copy of the restraining order applicant’s affidavit to the court. This is his or her written narrative explaining why s/he “needs” a restraining order. If you’re assertive, a clerk at the courthouse should provide you with a copy with some information redacted (crossed out), such as the applicant’s address. Knowing what the plaintiff has alleged against you is both your constitutional right and essential to your defense.
- Exploit any and all available resources to obtain the services of a qualified attorney, that is, an attorney both experienced with representing restraining order defendants and one you feel confident will represent your interests without reservation. Call around. Having an attorney speak on your behalf is your best bet of arresting a biased process that stands to exert a very detrimental influence on your future. Some respondents to this blog have reported paying thousands to attorneys who they felt ultimately sided with the restraining order applicant. So choose an attorney you feel certain will have your back. A lawyer is no different from anyone else you employ to do a job for you: get one you have faith in.
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“A judge contacted my job and is trying to get me fired. [What to do?]”
A judge’s contacting your employer is way out of line. You can report this misbehavior to the police, apply for a restraining order against the judge for harassment, and/or report his or her actions to your state’s judicial oversight commission. If the judge succeeded in costing you your job, you would also have grounds to sue him/her for damages. The system protects its own, so you would have to substantiate (document/prove) your case very thoroughly. Your best avenue of recourse (if it’s financially feasible) would be to hire an attorney.
“A person filed a restraining order, which a judge denied. Now the person is telling everyone they have a gun to use against the other party. [What to do?]”
If the other party feels his or her life is in danger, s/he shouldn’t hesitate to report these threats to the police and/or apply to the court for a restraining order him- or herself (which can require that the person be prohibited from possessing firearms or ammunition). The other party can obtain affidavits (sworn statements) from witnesses to support his or her allegations to a judge. Bear in mind, however, that a restraining order is just a piece of paper. If this person is psychotic, the threatened party should consider a more certain deterrent like relocating.
“A police officer called and informed me of a PPO [protection order]. Is a phone call effective without personal service upon me?”
In some jurisdictions, astonishingly, this is satisfactory, yes.
“Am I a criminal if I have a restraining order?”
Though the court and others may well treat you like a criminal or make you feel like one, no. A restraining order is a civil misdemeanor.
“Am I breaking the law if I posted a comment on Facebook about my ex-girlfriend who got a restraining order against me…?”
Restraining orders are public record, so no. You would only have made yourself liable to police interference if your comment was threatening or to civil litigation if your comment was libelous—in other words, if you lied about your ex-girlfriend in a defamatory way. Truth is an absolute defense against allegations of libel or slander. Fact is fact. Opinion is also protected under the Constitution. Care should be taken, though, if you’re commenting on a restraining order that’s still in effect that you don’t make yourself vulnerable to allegations of harassment. A good rule of thumb is to imagine that everything you write will be read by a judge. A single comment isn’t harassment.
“Are charges filed against me public record?”
Yes. The plaintiff’s affidavit (written narrative to the court) is often concealed—even from the defendant; but the restraining order itself is publicly accessible, along with any allegations that appear on it (whether true or false).
“Are narcissists con artists?”
Yes, they’re consummate manipulators and frauds who don’t scruple about lying to realize their own ends, including to police officers and judges.
“Are no-contact orders public knowledge and if so where do you locate them?”
Records of restraining orders are public, yes. A courthouse website will usually have a database that you can search by name or case number. Note that restraining orders can issue from county or city courthouses. Note also that accessibility of restraining order records by Internet can vary state-to-state. (Here, for example, is the public index for Charleston County, South Carolina.)
“Are restraining orders being issued too freely?”
Yes, in all senses: they’re issued casually, and they cost their applicants little or nothing.
“Are restraining orders constitutional?”
There are certainly grounds for questioning their constitutionality. Provisions of the United States Constitution and state constitutions require that all citizens be given equal recognition under the law and that no group of citizens be shown special consideration, and preferential treatment both of women generally and plaintiffs specifically is not only prevalent but often mandated (for example, courts may be given grant monies in return for consenting to unquestioningly accept allegations of fear or violence from women as true). Restraining orders also deny recipients due process, a constitutional privilege guaranteed by the Fifth, Sixth, and Fourteenth Amendments. They furthermore enable the courts to criminally sanction defendants (imprison them) without first affording them their constitutional entitlement to a trial by a jury of their peers. And almost all if not all restraining orders are issued ex parte, which means defendants are deprived of liberty (and often property) prior to being heard by the court. Some defendants, in fact, are never heard. Restraining orders are issued against them without the court’s ever knowing anything about them but their names.
“Are restraining orders hard to beat?”
Yes, because they can be based on testimony that’s impossible to discredit, for example, an emotional state. An allegation of fear, which may be all a plaintiff needs to persuade a judge to approve a restraining order, can’t be disproved. The only defense is to discredit the plaintiff by convincingly showing there are no objective grounds for fear or that s/he has an ulterior motive for alleging it. As painful as it may be, no matter how strained your finances, securing the representation of an attorney is critical to balancing the scales and insuring you at least get a fair shake in a restraining order appeal. Since restraining orders are obtained ex parte—that is, based solely on the word of the plaintiff—the notion that the scales of justice are balanced to begin with is ridiculous.
“Are you notified if a person you have a restraining order against moves?”
No. Unless the person were for some reason required to inform authorities of a change of address, neither the police nor the court would even know, and a restraining order doesn’t prohibit a person from moving (except, perhaps, within the vicinity of the petitioner).
“Can a CPO be verbal, or does it have to be written?”
To the best of my knowledge, a criminal protection order would necessarily have to be in print so that its recipient were duly apprised of its prohibitions. Mere communication of an order would seem to be insufficient (unless it were directly communicated by a judge). Orders issuing from the court, even if they’re verbally pronounced by judges, are typically “written” and mailed to or served on the parties at whom they’re directed. That notwithstanding, if you believe you’ve been ordered by the court not to approach or contact another person, you should refrain accordingly.
“Can a defendant vacate an order of protection?”
A defendant can contest the preliminary/temporary order prior to its being finalized. Either a date will be scheduled automatically, or one will be assigned subsequent to the defendant’s applying to the court for the opportunity to defend. Protocols vary from state to state. In Arizona, for example, defendants must request hearings. Filing a motion like this one from Maine, “Defendant’s Motion to Dissolve Temporary Order for Protection,” may or may not be necessary. A defendant’s appearance in court to challenge a restraining order is essentially understood as a motion to the court to dismiss/vacate the preliminary judgment, but there’s no harm in a defendant’s filing a motion and/or pronouncing in court, “Defendant moves to have the plaintiff’s order dismissed, because its allegations are false [or “baseless,” “frivolous,” etc.].” Dismissed, vacated, dissolved, terminated, or a similar word will be used, depending on the jurisdiction, to mean canceled, “dropped,” or “tossed.” Grounds for moving to have an order vacated after it has been finalized might be that the defendant was never served with the preliminary order and summons or that the order was otherwise “void.” If this doesn’t apply, and a ruling to finalize a restraining order goes against a defendant, s/he may appeal the ruling to a higher court. These are the only ways to vacate a restraining order without its petitioner’s cooperation. With the petitioner’s cooperation and an attorney’s assistance, an expired restraining order may be vacated even years later by filing a nunc pro tunc motion with the court (nunc pro tunc means “now for then”). Exceptions like this option available in Colorado may exist in other states: “JDF 395 Instructions for Restrained Person to Modify/Dismiss PO R3-12.”
“Can a felon have a restraining order against somebody?”
Yes. See this post for an example case: “Restraining Orders and the First Amendment: A Female Blogger’s Successful Appeal of a Restraining Order That Labeled Her a ‘Cyber-Stalker’.”
“Can a future employer see if you have a restraining order?”
Yes, if s/he endeavors to find out. Restraining orders are public record. In some regions, moreover, restraining order registries have been established like those for sex offenders, making access by the public not only convenient but enticing.
“Can a governor remove a restraining order?”
A governor can pardon (or commute) a crime. To the best of my knowledge, a governor cannot vacate/expunge a restraining order, which represents a civil misdemeanor. If you learn otherwise, please let me know. You have nothing to lose, of course, by writing or calling the governor’s office and asking.
“Can a judge dismiss a cease-and-desist harassment order at a hearing?”
Yes, presuming the purpose of the hearing is to hear the defendant’s arguments for the order’s being quashed/vacated (voided).
“Can a judge give a restraining order keeping my child in the hands of strangers?”
If anecdotal reports to this blog are reliable, yes. One respondent reported that a judge awarded custody of his son to one of his wife’s former boyfriends, who falsely claimed to be the boy’s father. Another respondent, whose son’s baby was placed in the custody of his maternal grandmother, reported that the grandmother refused to return the baby after the restraining order was dismissed, and authorities refused to intervene.
“Can a lover sue on behalf of someone else?”
Possibly. If the other person were incapacitated, for example, or otherwise deemed unfit to represent him- or herself, or if the injury complained of to the court was one the lover also suffered from.
“Can a no-contact order get dropped without consent from the person [who] put it up?”
A defendant/respondent can appeal the order (through multiple tiers of the court system if s/he has the stamina and financial resource). If appeals have been exhausted, though, or the window to file has closed, the answer to the question is probably no. Some respondents to this blog have sued and had restraining orders vacated that way (either the judge rules to “drop” them, or the sued parties consent to cooperate in their vacation in out-of-court settlements). A plaintiff/petitioner (“the person who put it up”) can file a motion to dismiss (vacate, withdraw, dissolve, terminate) a restraining order while it’s in effect, or the plaintiff and defendant can cooperatively file a nunc pro tunc motion with the court through an attorney to vacate it after its expiration.
“Can a person be coerced to file a fraudulent restraining order?”
Definitely. Particularly abominable is when a person (woman) is coerced to file a false restraining order by a police officer or agent of Child Protective Services (CPS) or by a judge.
“Can a person who doesn’t own the house file a restraining order and make the person who owns the house move out?”
Yes. It’s a common motive among restraining order applicants.
“Can a person who lies about a restraining order be charged if they request to drop it?”
Not really, no. It’s remotely conceivable that if you were to confess to lying, you could be sanctioned by the court, but such a confession isn’t necessary to have an order dismissed. You would only have to offer—if you were questioned at all—that you felt you acted rashly and now regret it. The court just needs to be assured that you don’t feel the order is necessary and that you’re not seeking to withdraw it because you were threatened or otherwise feel coerced. You don’t have to implicate yourself as a “liar,” per se, to have an injunction “dropped.” You just need to return to the courthouse and file a “motion to dismiss” or “motion to vacate.” Approval isn’t guaranteed, but if the allegations weren’t extreme and children weren’t involved, there shouldn’t be a problem. If the allegations were extreme and/or children were involved, the court might require that your home situation be investigated before ruling. See also this post.
“Can a PFA [protection from abuse order] keep you from a public place such as a church function?”
If the plaintiff on the order is there, yes; the proscriptions of the order (among them keeping a distance from the plaintiff) apply everywhere. Although an order may not specify a “minimum distance” that the defendant must observe, it will require that the defendant “keep away” from the plaintiff.
“Can a plaintiff drop a temporary protective order lawsuit?”
Yes. Only a judge can modify or vacate (“drop”) an order of the court, but a plaintiff can move a judge to do so. Procedures will vary from state to state, because every state’s laws are different. This document “explains,” for example, how a restraining order is modified or vacated in California: “Do you want to change or cancel a restraining order?” This page by a New Jersey attorney underscores the complexities of undoing the effects of restraining orders alleging domestic violence: “Can a domestic violence restraining order be vacated or dismissed?” Here’s a basic eHow tutorial: “How to Rescind a Protective Order.” The National Center for State Courts provides links to court forms in all 50 states that can be used by self-represented litigants. Plaintiffs seeking to vacate restraining orders in some states (for example, Kentucky) may not find prepared forms and may have to make their own. This would probably best be done by looking at a different motion form from their state, using it as a template/model, and titling it, “Motion to Vacate [X kind of] Order.” See also these state-specific forms/tutorials (and this post):
“Request to Modify or Dissolve Protective Order” (Alaska)
“Motion to Set Aside/Vacate Judgment” (Arizona)
“Ex Parte Request and Order to Terminate Restraining Order” (California)
“Request to Vacate Restraining Order” (California)
“Protection Order Forms” (Colorado)
“Motion to Modify/Dismiss Temporary/Permanent Protection Order” (Colorado)
“Order Vacating Restraining Order” (Colorado)
“Injunctions and Restraining Orders in Connecticut“
“How to Prepare a Civil Motion” (Delaware)
“Motion to Modify, Extend, or Vacate Order of Protection from Abuse” (or Word file) (Delaware)
“Dismissal of Temporary Restraining Order” (Georgia)
“Court Forms” (Hawaii)
“Motion for Dismissal” (Hawaii: applicable to first district court protection order)
“Motion to Dismiss” (Hawaii: applicable to third district court protection order)
“Motion to and Declaration to Dissolve the Existing Order” (Hawaii: applicable to family court restraining order)
“Procedure to Change or Dismiss an Order of Protection” (Illinois)
“Protection Order Forms” (Indiana)
“Petitioner’s Verified Request for Dismissal” (Indiana)
“Request to Cancel or Change a Chapter 236 Protective Order” (or Word file) (Iowa)
“Protection From Abuse Forms” (Kansas)
“Notice of Dismissal” (Kansas)
“Order of Dismissal” (Kansas)
“Uniform Abuse Prevention Order Forms” (Louisiana)
“Plaintiff’s Pre-Judgment Motion to Dismiss Complaint” (Maine)
“Plaintiff’s Post-Judgment Motion to Modify or Terminate Protection Order” (Maine)
“Petition To Modify/Rescind Peace Order” (Maryland)
“Petition To Modify/Rescind Protective Order” (Maryland)
“Restraining Order & Harassment Forms” (Massachusetts)
“Plaintiff’s Motion to Modify or Terminate Abuse Prevention Order” (Massachusetts)
“Motion and Order to Dismiss Action for Personal Protection Order” (Michigan)
“Motion to Modify, Extend, or Terminate Personal Protection Order” (Michigan)
“Domestic Abuse Forms” (Minnesota)
“Affidavit and Order for Dismissal” (Minnesota)
“Procedure—Setting Aside Final Judgments in Missouri”
“Domestic Violence – Protective Orders: Forms for Printing” (Montana)
“Motion for Modification or Termination of the Protection Order” (Montana)
“Motion to Vacate and Set Aside and to Dismiss” (Nebraska)
“Modifying, Dissolving, or Appealing a Protection Order” (Nevada)
“Failure to Prosecute, Dismissals, and Withdrawals” (New Hampshire)
“Can A Domestic Violence Restraining Order Be Dismissed?” (New Jersey)
“Dissolving a Domestic Violence Restraining Order” (New Jersey)
“Motion to Dismiss Temporary Order of Protection” (New Mexico)
“Procedure to Dismiss an Order of Protection in New York”
“Family Court Forms” (New York)
“Motion to Modify or Terminate Domestic Violence Civil Protection Order” (Ohio)
“Family Abuse Prevention Act (FAPA) Forms” (Oregon)
“Petitioner’s Motion and Affidavit for Dismissal and Order” (Oregon)

Instructions from the First Judicial District of Pennsylvania for vacating a protection-from-abuse order (PFA).
“Domestic Protection Order Forms” (South Dakota)
“Motion to Dismiss Protection Order” (South Dakota)
“Order Dismissing Protection Order” (South Dakota)
“Prosecuting and Defending Protective Orders” (Texas)
“Protective Order Forms” (Utah)
“Order on Request to Dismiss or Vacate Protective Order” (Utah)
“Relief from Abuse Forms” (Vermont)
“Motion to Vacate Relief from Abuse Order” (Vermont)
“Guide to Civil Protection Orders in D.C.” (Washington D.C.) (see p. 27: “Vacating Your CPO”)
“Domestic Violence Forms” (West Virginia)
“Petition to Terminate Protective Order” (West Virginia)
“Order Dismissing/Denying Petition for TRO/Injunction” (Wisconsin)
“Can a plaintiff email the defendant’s husband when [there’s a] harassment order?”
Yes. Since you’ve arguably injured that man’s family, though, unless the intent of your email were conciliatory (that is, unless you were trying to negotiate a peace), you would likely stir up trouble. The restraining order that you were awarded doesn’t, strictly speaking, impose any limitations on your actions, only on the defendant’s.
“[C]an a police officer sue someone for making a false accusation?”
A police officer might have sufficient grounds to sue someone for making a false accusation against him or her, yes, especially if it was done publicly in a way that damaged the officer’s reputation or professional standing. A police officer couldn’t sue, though, for someone’s making false allegations against someone else. False reporting to a police officer is a misdemeanor crime that could only be prosecuted by the county/district attorney’s office.
“Can a police officer work in a town if someone has a restraining order against them?”
That’s probably a question for HQ (police admin). Unless having a restraining order against him or her were grounds for termination of employment from the police department, it would probably just impose some limitations on where the officer was permitted to go. Typically, though, restraining orders prohibit defendants from possessing firearms, which might well mean an officer couldn’t work in any town.
“Can [a] protection order forbid you to go to someone’s home who is not involved?”
Unless the court’s order specifically says so, no. Obviously if the plaintiff resides in that person’s home, it’s off-limits. Though restraining orders are boilerplate instruments, each will specify what addresses you’re forbidden to visit (usually the plaintiff’s residence and place of work or study). The only adult you’re forbidden contact with is the order’s plaintiff, though minor children in the plaintiff’s care may also be included on the injunction. If the plaintiff has requested an area be forbidden to you for no justifiable reason, you can bring this up at your appeals hearing or apply to see a judge to modify the order.
“Can a restrained person communicate through a lawyer?”
Ask one. A lawyer who’s representing you in a legal action against the plaintiff is authorized and legally bound to inform the plaintiff, certainly. Whether an attorney can tender an olive branch to the plaintiff or propose a reconciliation is a question s/he could best answer.
“Can a restraining order be placed with no hearing?”
Yes, in contravention of defendants’ constitutional right to due process, restraining orders are typically issued ex parte, which means based on allegations made by the accuser and articulated in a brief interview with a judge (five to 10 minutes). In some states (Arizona and Michigan are examples), no hearing is required (also in contravention of due process). In order to be heard at all, defendants must apply to the court to be given an audience and an opportunity to defend (which is often limited to around 15 minutes).
“Can a restraining order be taken out against a child under 10 in Maryland?”
Google Maryland + restraining order laws. I know juvenile restraining orders are available in California. See this Huffington Post story: “Father of Bullied Son Files Restraining Order against 9-Year-Old Kid.” See also this letter from the Maryland Office of the Attorney General.
“Can a restraining order become [a] public document without your knowledge?”
A restraining order is a public document.
“Can a restraining order ruin your future?”
No question about it. If you’re asking could it prevent you from getting a job, it would probably depend on the job. Whether knowledge of your having received a restraining order would be the reason an employer would cite for rejecting you is uncertain. Whether that knowledge would influence an employer’s decision is less uncertain. Running for high public office is probably off the table. (One reader found this blog by this search engine query: “old restraining order keeps me from getting jobs.” Other respondents report being denied jobs because of vacated restraining orders, that is, ones that were ultimately dismissed as baseless.)
“Can a stepmother sue an ex-wife for intentional infliction of emotional distress?”
Yes. A husband can’t sue his wife or she him. Otherwise, a litigant’s relationship with the other party in a lawsuit is irrelevant. What would matter in a suit of this sort is the plaintiff’s (the stepmother’s) ability to substantiate her allegations of intentional infliction of emotional distress against the defendant (the ex-wife). Consult your state’s definition of this tort to see whether the grounds of your complaint to the court would qualify. Typically for misconduct to rise to the level of intentional infliction of emotional distress, it has to be pretty heinous. Extreme misconduct is hardly unheard of in cases of abuse of restraining orders or related bureaucratic processes, but lawyers and judges need considerable persuading, because they’re unaccustomed to thinking of restraining orders, for example, as “abusive” (even though they know damn well that they’re abused—and routinely). You would need to firmly impress upon them the severity of your injury, which would likely require third-party corroboration (for example, from a doctor and/or therapist) and documentation, for example, of lost income, etc. Affidavits or testimony from family members or friends regarding your mood and behavior might also support your allegation.
“Can a teenager have a restraining order removed?”
If the teenager were still in the care of the adult guardian who petitioned the order, probably not, though this is a question that could be run past a lawyer with a phone call (no charge). If the petitioner of the restraining order were no longer (or was never) the teenager’s legal guardian, it’s possible the court might determine the restraining order to be void.
“Can [a] third party be arrested when breaking a protection order…?”
The only person who can violate a restraining order is the person against whom it was issued (that is, the defendant). A restraining order only applies to the actions of its defendant.
“Can a wife put a restraining order on someone for someone else?”
Only if that “someone else” is a minor or an adult deemed unfit to represent him- or herself. You can’t apply for a restraining order for someone else if the other person is an adult capable of self-representation.
“Can anyone attend a TPO hearing…?”
Yes. It’s a public proceeding.
“Can charges be filed for filing a false protective order?”
Only by the district prosecutor. Who won’t. So no.
“Can evidence help fight a restraining order?”
Assuredly. Don’t, however, expect evidence you provide to the court to speak for itself. Use it instead to support your interpretation of the restraining order plaintiff’s motive. Judges should ask questions and probe defendants’ allegations, but defendants shouldn’t take judges’ interest in the truth (or justice) for granted. The reason you have a restraining order in the first place is because a judge swallowed whatever story the plaintiff told him or her.
“Can I appeal if I lost a motion to terminate a PPO against me?”
If the ruling in a hearing to appeal a restraining order went against you, you may appeal the case to the next highest court, yes. Inquire at the courthouse that issued the order. In my state, applying for the opportunity to file an appellate memorandum with the Superior Court is free, and defendants have a month to craft their appeals briefs. If you exercise this option, find out what the criteria for judging such an appeal are. In Arizona, where I live, the Superior Court rules on such an appeal based on whether the lower court clearly “abused its discretion” in issuing/upholding a restraining order, that is, the next judge up the food chain doesn’t review a case de novo (from scratch); it determines whether the lower court overstepped its authority.
“Can I be arrested for mailing a certified letter if there [is] a restraining order against me?”
Not if you’re mailing legal documents, but such documents will of course have to have been filed with and approved by the courts beforehand. If, for example, you’ve filed a lawsuit against the plaintiff in a restraining order case against you, you may (and have to) mail the complaint and summons to him/her. If contact by mail is forbidden by the restraining order, though, mailing any other sort of communication to its plaintiff would be a violation of the order (whether by certified letter or other means). Put simply, you can mail court documents pursuant to a legal action; you can’t write to say hi.
“Can I be charged with violating a restraining order I didn’t know about…?”
Technically, no, but it’s not unheard of. If you’ve been accused of violating an order you were never served with, you need to appeal and make that clear to a judge.
“Can I be sued for libel if I write about my ex and don’t post his name?”
Qualifying grounds for suing someone for libel are that s/he lied about you publicly in a defamatory way. The key word here is lied. If what you write about your ex is true, no matter how unflattering it might be, it isn’t libel. Truth is an absolute defense against allegations of libel/slander/defamation. If you are sued for libel, and you didn’t lie about the plaintiff, you may countersue for malicious prosecution/abuse of process and request damages. A caveat to consider, however, is that when someone does sue for libel, the burden falls upon the defendant (you) to prove that what s/he’s reported is accurate. Can someone file a libel suit against you? Sure. Under the circumstances you specify, though, it’s very unlikely you would be sued.
“Can I call my accuser to the stand on stalking charges?”
A restraining order hearing isn’t a trial. It’s conducted more like a hearing for a traffic violation (in my state, anyway). Participants are sworn in but don’t take the stand. You can, though, pose questions to your accuser through the presiding judge, that is, the judge will communicate your question(s) to the plaintiff and require that s/he respond.
“Can I call my ex’s attorney when I have a restraining order on him?”
There’s certainly no legal impediment preventing you, though his attorney has no obligation to take your call. His attorney’s responding would probably depend on the nature of what you had to say or what you were asking of him or her. A lawyer is employed to serve the interests of his or her client.
“Can I contact my husband under an order of protection against him?”
Sure. But if he responds, he may be subject to arrest and incarceration. Better to communicate through a third party.
“Can I drop a PPO order I had taken out?”
Yes. Any time before it expires, you may go to the courthouse and have it vacated with no repercussions—though if allegations of domestic violence were made against a spouse, and there are minor children in the household, it’s possible the court would require that your domestic situation be investigated prior to issuing a ruling. See also this post.
“Can I drop a restraining order before court?”
Yes. You would file a motion with the court to have the temporary order dismissed/vacated.
“Can I fight a restraining order that’s been put on my boyfriend by the DA?”
Yes. See the links in this comment strand for advice.
“Can I file a civil suit against someone who has filed a false order for harassment against me?”
Yes. Survey similar questions on this page for further information.
“Can I file a lawsuit against my ex-wife for taking out an order of protection on me and wrecking my reputation?”
If she lied, absolutely. The standard of proof of libel/defamation requires that you demonstrate she publicly made false statements of fact about you that harmed your name and respectability. The statute of limitation for libel/defamation is usually one year.
“Can I [file a] motion to vacate an order…when I’m not the defendant?”
As the petitioner/plaintiff, you can move the court to vacate/dismiss an order you requested, yes (see above for links to forms and tutorials).
“Can I file a PFA [protection from abuse order] if my wife beats me?”
Certainly, yes. Though they wouldn’t strictly be necessary, photographs of injuries (bruises, etc.) would support your allegations.
“Can I fire my lawyer on a protective order case?”
Sure.
“Can I get a restraining order against my wife?”
If the court determines you have sufficient grounds, sure.
“Can I get a restraining order against someone who attacked me?”
Yes. That’s what restraining order laws were enacted to provide protection against.
“Can I get a restraining order on someone who got one on me? / “Can a respondent file an application for an injunction against the plaintiff?”
Yes. The court usually doesn’t discriminate (and, constitutionally speaking, shouldn’t). In some jurisdictions, however (for example, Illinois), there are laws on the books that prohibit “mutual orders.” See this post. This doesn’t bar applicants from filing separate petitions, though, which would be heard separately and assigned their own case numbers.
“Can I get an order of protection against someone who has one on me?”
Assuming you can persuade the court that you’re in need of protection, yes. And unless you’re asked, you’re not obligated to share that you’re under a court-ordered injunction yourself (which should have no bearing on your allegations, anyway). A restraining order in no way restricts your taking legal action against the plaintiff or reporting his or her misconduct to the police or the courts; it only forbids you from personally contacting or approaching the plaintiff. If you successfully petitioned for a protection order, you would still have to observe the injunction against you or risk arrest. The defendant on the restraining order you got would be identically restricted.
“Can I get in trouble for emailing with a restraining order?”
Yes. Consult the court order you were issued. Sometimes only face-to-face contact is forbidden, but if the plaintiff has indicated no emails, telephone calls, etc., then those forms of communication are also off-limits, and engaging in them could make you subject to arrest.
“Can I get in trouble for not paying the court costs for someone [who] put a restraining order on me?”
If the court has ordered you to pay those costs, yes. If you’re asking whether you’re automatically obligated to pay attorney fees for the plaintiff’s being represented at a hearing, the answer is probably no. It was the plaintiff’s choice to hire counsel. If in doubt, don’t hesitate to go to the courthouse and ask.
“Can I get in trouble for violating my own restraining order years later?”
No. There are no grounds, that is, for your being arrested for communicating with the defendant in spite of a restraining order you obtained that’s now expired—or for your communicating with that person since its expiration. Some basis for the defendant to sue you may still endure, but the probability of this is low.
“Can I get in trouble if I don’t report my husband violated the PPO?”
Not legally. If your reasons for taking out the protection order were legitimate, though—that is, if your husband’s dangerous—then you could be inviting further violations. The only value of a restraining order (a legitimate one) is to check the behavior of someone who has a basic respect for the law. (Restraining orders are band-aids dispensed to reassure the public that the government cares. That’s why they’re most effective when they’re false). If your husband is dangerous and has no respect for the law, a restraining order is all but useless, and you’d do well to consider an alternative solution, like relocating. (This is the pickle the court puts you in: reporting your husband may only inflame a volatile situation.) If, on the other hand, your husband isn’t dangerous and you’ve thought better of the restraining order and that’s why you haven’t reported the violation, you may pacify the situation by going to the courthouse and having it nullified. A lawyer or women’s advocate could tell you if there’s a middle course, like hashing out differences through a mediator.
“Can I get in trouble for talking to someone I filed a protection order against…?”
No. But the other person could. Enforcing no-contact is presumably why you filed for the protection order.
“Can I get into trouble [for] speaking to someone with a restraining order?”
A restraining order’s prohibitions only apply to its defendant (its recipient), that is, a restraining order only prohibits its defendant from communicating with its plaintiff. If you’re asking as the defendant in a restraining order case, the only person (or people) you can get into trouble speaking to are the ones you’ve been told not to speak to. If you’re asking whether you can get into trouble for speaking to someone else who has a restraining order, the answer is no. Though it’s often among the evil effects restraining orders have, they aren’t meant to place defendants in social quarantine.
“Can I go to my husband’s court [hearing] if the district attorney placed a criminal protection order on him?”
Yes. A restraining order against your husband in no way constrains your actions.
“Can I include my girlfriend in a restraining order?”
If you’re asking whether you can include your girlfriend as a co-plaintiff on a restraining order that you apply for against a third party, no. You and your girlfriend would have to file separate restraining orders against him or her.
“Can I keep a sociopath out of my same state with a restraining order?”
No.
“Can I post pics on Facebook of someone who has a restraining order against me?”
Facebook may have its own policies concerning posting pictures of others. You’re technically only constrained from performing activities specified on the court’s order (forbidden activities are usually limited to contacting or approaching the plaintiff). Posting pictures of the plaintiff that s/he might object to is not going to land you in jail. It might, however, provoke the plaintiff to cause you more legal aggravation.
“Can I put a restraining order on my spouse forbidding them to talk to someone else?”
Strictly speaking, no (though this is a common ulterior motive among restraining order applicants, especially ones who’ve cheated on their husbands or wives and don’t want them finding out—or who don’t want their spouses cheating on them).
“Can I request to get the affidavit on [a] restraining order…?”
On a restraining order against you, yes. See a clerk at the courthouse, and assert your right to know what the plaintiff has alleged against you. If you’re insistent, the clerk should provide the affidavit with some information redacted (crossed out), such as the plaintiff’s address. If you’re refused, an attorney can obtain it for you.
“Can I request to have a restraining order vacated if its petitioner harasses me?”
Not per se. You certainly can, though, apply for a restraining order yourself against the plaintiff of the one against you. You can also report this person’s misconduct to the police (who will likely call the person and warn him or her to stop). Having a restraining order against you in no way impedes your instituting legal action against its plaintiff or reporting his or her actions to the police and/or courts.
“Can I send a letter to the court against my protection order?”
It’s perfectly lawful to write to a judge. It’s very unlikely to have any effect in your favor, though. If the judge obviously violated his ethical duties, you can file a complaint against him or her with your state’s Commission on Judicial Conduct. This is unlikely to affect the ruling, either, however. You can appeal the verdict to the Superior Court (no cost), but it bases its ruling on whether the lower court judge clearly abused his discretion, so you’d want to orient your appeal toward proving s/he did (i.e., that s/he went out of bounds). If the window for filing for an appeals hearing has closed, or you’ve already had an appeals hearing and it went against you, you’re stuck with applying directly to the plaintiff (through an attorney) to have him or her cooperate in vacating the restraining order in lieu of litigation (and this may only be a viable option after the order has expired). This answer presumes you’re the defendant. If you’re the plaintiff, you can have your restraining order quashed by dropping by the courthouse—or, if it has expired, by having an attorney file a nunc pro tunc motion.
“Can I Skype if the order of protection says ‘phone’?”
Generally speaking, you’re not forbidden from using Skype. If you’re asking whether you can contact the plaintiff via Skype, that would probably be okay if the order allows phone contact. The plaintiff would have the option of responding to your call if s/he wanted or ignoring it if s/he didn’t. If the order forbids phone contact with the plaintiff, though, Skyping him or her would also be forbidden, obviously.
“Can I still send my kids things even though the girl has a restraining order?”
Consult the specific constraints on the restraining order you were issued. Sometimes only face-to-face contact with the plaintiff is forbidden, but oftentimes all contact is forbidden. The children may even be listed on the court’s order as additional parties you’re forbidden from contacting. Be very sure you’re authorized contact with your children before sending them anything, because even mailing something as innocuous as a birthday card could land you in jail (and you wouldn’t be the first to be arrested for something so harmless and understandable).
“Can I submit a letter to the courts in defense of my boyfriend, who was charged with domestic violence against me?”
Yes. This is unlikely to have any effect, though. You’d do better to provide testimony in his defense at a hearing or to provide him or his attorney with an affidavit, which is a written statement that you would have notarized to make it the equivalent of sworn testimony. See also this comment thread on vacating a criminal restraining order (a.k.a “mandatory order” or MRO).
“Can I sue a stalker who has filed a restraining order against me falsely to only then beat me up and say it was self-defense since they have a restraining order against me in place?”
PLEASE DO.
“Can I sue my soon-to-be ex-husband for filing a bogus order of protection?”
Yes, but you’d probably have to postpone filing your complaint with the court until the divorce was final.
“Can I sue someone for filing a wrongful restraining order that cost me my job?”
Yes. See similar questions for a more detailed answer.
“Can I sue if a police officer lied about serving a restraining order?”
You can sue anyone for anything (including officers of the law and court—yep, you can sue a judge just like anyone else whose negligent conduct injures you). To show standing to prosecute a complaint (lawsuit), you need to demonstrate that you were injured and have a vested stake in the court’s redressing that injury. If you were served with a restraining order, the police officer should be able to produce a receipt with your signature on it.
“Can I sue someone for mental anguish from attempting to get a restraining order?”
Yes. To make a compelling case, though, you’d have to see a counselor and doctor so the court had some third-party substantiation of your suffering. If it was merely an attempt and the duration of your suffering was brief, the sympathy you could expect would probably be scant. If you could show a pattern of conduct, you’d stand a better chance of prevailing in a lawsuit. If this pattern rose to a sufficient level of egregiousness, you could sue for intentional infliction of emotional distress.
“Can I sue someone who wrongfully filed a civil harassment suit?”
Yes. See also above. Torts for suits alleging malicious prosecution or abuse of process involving a restraining order are likely to be among these: malicious prosecution/abuse of process, defamation, false light, intentional infliction of emotional distress, and fraud (on you and/or the police and courts). Other torts may apply, such as those entailing invasion of privacy. See your local law library for a book of jury instructions (which will show you not only what torts may be alleged in your state but how those torts are defined and what you would need to prove to establish liability).
“Can I talk to the police about emotional abuse?”
Certainly, yes. Whether an officer could assist you with resolving the abuse would depend on the circumstances.
“Can I travel to Bangladesh and reenter the U.S. with a restraining order?”
Unless you’re under unique restrictions, there’s no evident reason for concern. Though it may feel otherwise, you’re not being monitored. A civil restraining order prescribes limitations on your interaction with another party. That’s all. Violation of a restraining order (e.g., contacting the plaintiff) can result in the deportation of a non-citizen, but travel is not a violation. A restraining order is meant to keep you away from someone, not keep you close. To be certain your restrictions aren’t peculiar, review the court’s order, and don’t hesitate to inquire with the court (i.e., a judge, not a clerk) if you’re still anxious.
“Can multiple persons be named in a restraining order?”
Unless the laws in your state are exceptional, only one adult can be named as “plaintiff” on a restraining order, though children in that adult’s care may additionally be listed. Multiple adults seeking a restraining order against a single defendant would have to apply separately.
“Can my attorney speak to the person I have a restraining order against?”
Of course. Anybody can. Injunctions (excepting mutual no-contact orders) are one-way: the only person restrained by a restraining order is the defendant (who could freely respond to your attorney if s/he wished).
“Can my employer stop me from talking to someone else?”
While you’re on the clock, yes. An employer can’t impose limitations on how you spend your personal time, though. See the question, “Can your employer make you file a restraining order on someone?” for how to respond to workplace/employer coercion. If the job is one you couldn’t live without, consider asking the other person not to visit or call you at work and reassure your employer that your relationship with the other person isn’t one s/he need be concerned about.
“Can my ex come back to the house to get her stuff if I have an order of protection?”
No, the order of protection prohibits her from nearing you or your place of residence (on pain of police arrest). You could, though, have her belongings delivered to her or let someone pick them up for her.
“Can my fiancé ask the DA to terminate the criminal protective order that he has with me?”
He can ask, yes.
“Can my girlfriend get arrested for lying on a protective order?”
In theory, yes. In practice, no. Perjury, though a felony, is a crime in name only. The statute is seldom enforced and never in commonplace matters. The district prosecutor, if asked why, would shrug and say that if he prosecuted everyone who lied, there’d be no one outside of prison to caddy for him.
“Can my husband have the court date changed?”
Sure, provided the court finds his request for a postponement to be worthy.
“Can my spouse file a protective order after I filed one already?” / “Can someone file a restraining order against me if I have one against them?”
Yes. In a democracy, what’s deemed fair for you to do is deemed fair for all to do. In some jurisdictions, entitlement to file cross-claims is restricted, but it’s usually possible for defendants to apply for injunctions against plaintiffs provided they’re insistent and meet certain qualifications.
“Can restraining orders be served via postal mail?”
Possibly. I’ve heard of a restraining order being served by video on Facebook. Service requires confirmation that the defendant has been provided with a copy of the court’s order or had that order read out to him verbatim. If a restraining order were mailed, it would probably require a signature from the defendant confirming receipt to properly qualify as served.
“Can someone file a restraining order on the other person who already has one on them?”
Sure.
“Can someone file multiple protection orders?”
Yes, even against a single person.
“Can someone get a restraining order against me for posting a blog?”
It would probably depend on how a judge perceived its intent. The courts generally consider blogs to be the equivalent of online diaries. If you haven’t contacted the person in question and repeatedly been told not to, you’re not vulnerable to an allegation of harassment. If you haven’t lied about the defendant, you’re also immune to allegations of libel or defamation. Unless you’re leaking state secrets, posting information or opinion is protected under the Constitution. Where a judge might take exception to your blog is if its intent is patently malicious or invades the privacy of the other person (or, in the case of warring parents, if it stands to injure the kids). If the gist of your blog is, “X did this” or “X did this to me, and I think s/he’s a dirtbag,” saying so is your First Amendment prerogative. In other words, it’s defensible. That said, restraining orders lacking any meritorious basis are awarded to petitioners routinely. “S/he posted a blog about me, and I feel threatened!” may strike some judge or other as sufficient grounds (particularly an older judge who thinks the Internet is a playground for perverts). A goodly percentage of restraining orders are obtained on the force of dramatic persuasion alone. Should someone be able to get a restraining order against you for posting a blog? Excluding the exceptional cases I’ve mentioned, no. See also this post.
“Can someone get a restraining order against me without my knowledge?”
Restraining orders are issued ex parte, meaning based on interviews between judges and plaintiffs. Defendants are only informed after the fact. So yes, someone can obtain a restraining order without your knowledge. Service of the restraining order is required, however, for it to take effect. If you haven’t been served with a court order and informed of its restrictions on your freedom, you can’t be expected to observe it.
“Can someone park their vehicle in front of your house if you have a TRO against them?”
If the court has ordered this person not to come within a certain distance of you and/or your residence, then his/her parking in front of your house is a willful violation of the restraining order and grounds for arrest.
“Can someone place a restraining order after one contact in five years?”
Restraining orders are meant to restrain chronic behaviors. That said, a judge may sign off on a restraining order in the absence of any qualifying evidence. If you’re issued a restraining order based on a single isolated meeting, you would have strong grounds to appeal.
“Can someone put a restraining order on me for calling her a bitch?”
Calling someone a name is not sufficient grounds for a restraining order. This is the land of the free (supposedly, at least): you’re entitled to call a Supreme Court Justice a bitch. This person, though, especially if she is a bitch, could allege that you’ve repeatedly harassed her despite her asking you to leave her alone or make any number of similar claims to a judge (they don’t have to be true). Steer clear of her, and tell her to leave you alone.
“Can someone put a restraining order on me from another state?”
Yes.
“Can someone sue you for filing a restraining order against them?” / “Can someone sue me for filing a false restraining order that was dismissed?” / “Can I be sued for a dismissed domestic abuse restraining order?” / “Can I sue if [the] plaintiff dismissed [the] charges?” / “Can I sue…if an order of protection was taken [out] against me, and the accusations were proven to be false?” / “Can I sue the plaintiff if a protection order is quashed for legal fees, etc.?” / “Can I sue a neighbor for filing false charges against me that could affect my job?”
Yes.
“Can someone take out a restraining order for someone else?”
No, not unless the other person is a minor or an adult found to be incapable of representing him- or herself. Hawaii’s family court, for example, has a specific application for this (“Petition for an Order for Protection on Behalf of a Family or Household Member“).
“Can someone who has a restraining order on me tell my boss?”
Yes, s/he can tell anyone. Restraining orders are public documents. This doesn’t mean, however, that the restraining order plaintiff could lie to your boss with impunity. If s/he made false claims about you that imperiled your employment, you could sue him or her for damages or seek an injunction against the plaintiff of your own, alleging harassment.
“Can someone write on Facebook about you if you have a restraining order against them?”
A restraining order doesn’t mean someone can’t talk or write about you. It just means s/he can’t talk or write to you. If what the defendant has written is patently harassing or taunting, you may have grounds for having the restraining order modified to forbid this kind of public expression. If, however, the defendant is reporting facts about the case, that’s his or her constitutional right (as is his or her expressing an opinion about those facts). Restraining orders are matters of public record. If the defendant (or anyone else) lies about you publicly in a damaging way, you may sue him or her for defamation.
“Can the state pick up a case after you drop a restraining order?”
If a restraining order that was electively petitioned in civil court were vacated upon the request of the petitioner, there wouldn’t seem to be any grounds for further state interest. If the order had been violated, that is, if the plaintiff and defendant had been communicating or seeing each other in spite of the order’s prohibitions and this were reported, it might constitute grounds for a renewal of scrutiny. Otherwise, I can’t conceive of a reason why terminating the restraining order wouldn’t be a legal end on the matter.
“Can women get away with false protective orders?”
Sure. Men, too (though not as easily).
“Can you be prosecuted for lying to get a restraining order?”
Yes. If you lie about a material fact in a restraining order case (that is, one likely to influence a judge), you’re vulnerable to prosecution by the county/district attorney for felony perjury. You may also be prosecuted in civil court (sued) by the person you lie about (for defamation, false light, fraud, etc.).
“Can you be violated for a restraining order after it expires?”
Expired means no longer valid/effective. A possible exception would be if you violated the restraining order before it expired, and this was easily proved.
“Can you beat a PFA…if you have prior mental issues?”
Possibly. You would probably need a counselor (therapist, psychologist) or doctor/psychiatrist to testify on your behalf at an appeals hearing, whether in person or by affidavit. Ideally, you should have an attorney represent you, besides. Because you’re not being charged with a crime, guilt is less a factor than whether the plaintiff has a legitimate reason to be concerned for his or her safety, privacy, or peace of mind. If the allegations against you are nonviolent—if you were merely accused of harassing conduct, for example—you might be able to base a defense on a mental condition like manic depression, schizophrenia, or Tourette syndrome—a condition, that is, that causes you to involuntarily engage in activity that someone would find unsettling or distressing.
“Can you file a restraining order based on hearsay…?”
You can file a restraining order based on fantasy or outright lies.
“Can you get a fake restraining order?”
Daily if you’re determined enough.
“Can you get a protective order because of a threatening phone call?”
Possibly, though a threat communicated by phone is impossible to substantiate (prove) unless the call was recorded.
“Can you get a restraining order for comments made on Facebook?”
If you’ve been libeled (that is, if someone has made false, public statements that traduced your name and respectability) or if you’ve libeled someone yourself, redress through the courts would probably be by lawsuit. Grounds for a restraining order would be your repeatedly making comments to someone or that person’s repeatedly directing unwanted comments to you despite being told not to. In other words, if you keep posting to someone’s wall or emailing him or her in spite of that person’s telling you to buzz off, s/he could allege harassment and be granted a restraining order. If you post comments about someone to someone else, and those comments can be defended as either truthful or simply your opinion, the person you wrote about would not have grounds for filing for a restraining order against you (which, unfortunately, doesn’t mean a great deal: a judge can approve a restraining order on a whim). Play it safe. If you’ve got someone threatening to petition for a restraining order against you, keep your communications about that person private.
“Can you get a restraining order if you don’t want someone to view your finances at their place of employment?”
Probably not, per se. If the person were to use that information inappropriately in a way that injured you or that demonstrably invaded your privacy, you might have grounds to allege harassment (besides report that person for professional misconduct).
“Can you get a restraining order to stop someone from posting messages on Facebook and [sending] text messages?”
Yes. Before taking this extreme step, though, why not tell the person to stop and inform the person of your intention if s/he doesn’t? That may suffice to resolve the nuisance and would save you and him/her a good deal of grief (and the taxpaying public about $2,000).
“Can you get an order of protection against you for only stating your opinion about someone?”
Strictly speaking, no. There might be exceptions, for example, if you publicly stated the opinion that the other person would look better in a noose or in concrete shoes at the bottom of the ocean. Opinion is protected under the Constitution. Unless your opinion could be persuasively interpreted as threatening, there isn’t a substantive basis for a protection order.
“Can you get fair representation yourself against a lawyer in court?”
In theory, yes. In practice, no. Courts show partiality toward attorneys and those represented by them. Restraining order defendants are an exceptional case. For restraining order defendants, having a lawyer definitely improves the odds of their prevailing in a hearing but doesn’t guarantee success, because courts also show partiality toward restraining order plaintiffs (applicants, that is, especially female ones). If you’re a restraining order defendant and the plaintiff is represented by counsel, you’re going to have a very tough time of it on your own. Retain a lawyer yourself if at all feasible.
“Can you legally explain your side of a temporary restraining order on Facebook?”
A restraining order doesn’t deny you your freedom of speech. If you’re forbidden all contact with the plaintiff, though, you can’t message him or her on Facebook. Also, take care when writing that what you say is defensible (that is, true and factual) and that you don’t provide the plaintiff with grounds to allege harassment. If you’re writing about a restraining order that’s still in effect, you’d be wise to imagine that everything you say will be read by a judge. A blog is typically viewed by the courts as an online diary, so a blog might provide you with more latitude to express yourself than you’d have writing on Facebook. A blog requires that others choose to read what you post there; things you post on Facebook are automatically forwarded to those in your circle, making it an aggressive medium rather than a passive one (a judge may discern a difference, that is, between your explaining your side and your advertising it). See also this post.
“Can you post a restraining order on Facebook?”
A restraining order is a public document.
“Can you press charges for harassment with a PPO in effect?”
You can certainly try. An injunction doesn’t forbid your filing a police report or taking other legal action against the plaintiff (for example, suing him or her). Just make sure any documents you send or have served on the plaintiff are mailed or delivered through proper channels (i.e., do not contact or confront the plaintiff in person). Such documents must, of course, have been processed by the court ahead of time. If you’re male and you’re being harassed by a female plaintiff with a protection order against you, your allegations are likely to be discounted by the police. An attorney could best advise you on available recourses, which will probably be through the courts. Initial consultations are usually free.
“Can you re-serve a restraining order?”
If you’re asking whether you can apply for another restraining order to replace one that has expired, yes, if the conduct complained of in the first injunction resumes.
“Can you report that your girlfriend will file a fake restraining order?”
No. The court only rules on actual misconduct. It won’t act on your prediction. If there’s no restraining order in effect at present, though, you’re perfectly free to tell your girlfriend that you intend to sue her penniless if she follows through on the threat—which you would have every right to do in such a case.
“Can you send a greeting card to someone who has a restraining order against you?”
Consult the order you were served. If it prohibits all contact with the plaintiff, including by phone, email, and post, then sending a card would be a violation. Take the court’s order very seriously, because defendants have been arrested for acts as innocuous as this.
“Can you settle a restraining order out of court?”
Possibly. Bear in mind that if you’re the defendant and the restraining order is in effect, your contacting the plaintiff is probably forbidden and grounds for arrest. Consult the court’s order to see whether all contact is off-limits. Sometimes communication by phone, letter, or email is allowed. If it isn’t, then you’d either have to speak via a third party (which may also be forbidden) or through an attorney to avoid risk of arrest. If the restraining order was fraudulent, you can of course sue for damages and possibly settle the matter out of court that way. If you’re the plaintiff in the case, you can return to the court and request that it be vacated.
“Can you still be pressed with charges if you talked during a restraining order, but the restraining order is over?”
The window for reporting a violation is probably closed now that the injunction has expired. This is a question you could likely run past a criminal attorney for no charge, though, if you’re really concerned. Make a call and frame the question this way: “I’m wondering if I need to retain legal counsel. My situation is….”
“Can you still sue someone if you have a restraining order against you?”
Yes. A restraining order isn’t an impediment to instituting a civil action against the plaintiff. Once you’ve filed your complaint and summons with the court (usually your local Superior Court), you may send the court-approved documents to the defendant by certified mail or have them served on the defendant by a local law officer or process server. (You want a confirmation that the defendant received them, which you need to provide to the court to proceed.) Keep everything on the up and up. Your only communication with the defendant will be through legal briefs submitted through the court (copies of which you’ll mail to the defendant or the defendant’s attorney).
“Can you stop a restraining order before it is served?”
If you’re the plaintiff, possibly. You’d have to return to the courthouse and move to have it vacated. If you’re the defendant, no. You’d have to request an appeals hearing.
“Can you sue a counselor if she doesn’t keep her word?”
You may have grounds for suing her and/or having her license revoked if she breached confidentiality (that is, if she talked about your private sessions with a third party or parties without your consent).
“Can you sue for legal fees on a dropped restraining order?”
Yes. If you’re only out a few thousand or less, filing in small claims would be simplest—and you could represent yourself if having a lawyer represent you would cause your damage claim to exceed that court’s award limit.
“Can you sue for repetitive false restraining orders?”
You can sue anyone for anything, certainly, and it only costs a couple hundred or so to file a lawsuit with the Superior Court. Getting a judge to recognize the pain, suffering, and stress that the kind of sniping you’re talking about causes is challenging, though, because the court obviously doesn’t want to cop to its role in this abuse. If you could qualify and substantiate your losses adequately, and you filed your complaint within the statutes of limitation for whatever torts you were alleging, you could probably recover on your suffering and simultaneously bring this conduct to a permanent halt. Consider, also, if you’re seeking to recover damages, requesting a jury trial (instead of a “bench trial”). There’s an extra cost for a jury, but I’d sooner rely on Joe and Jane Doe to recognize how torturous what you’re complaining of is than a judge.
“Can you sue someone if you have a restraining order?”
Yes. A restraining order isn’t an impediment to your taking legal action against your accuser. Injunction against contacting him or her doesn’t apply to mailing legal documents (a court summons and lawsuit, for example) or to having legal documents delivered by a process server or local law officer. Nor, incidentally, does it apply to your talking to anyone else you might wish to, whether an attorney, friends on Facebook, or people who know both you and the plaintiff whom you want to explain the situation to and/or obtain testimony from. If you choose to meet with a mutual acquaintance, of course, make sure the plaintiff won’t be present.
“Can you violate a restraining order if a temporary order was created the same day you supposedly violated it?”
Technically a restraining order isn’t valid until it’s been served on the defendant. You can’t, that is, be expected to observe an order of the court until you’ve been provided with a copy of it or have otherwise been informed of its specifications (by having it read out to you by a law officer, for example).
“Can your employer make you file a restraining order on someone?”
No. S/he couldn’t compel you to prosecute someone by threatening to fire you, that is. If your employer objects to someone’s conduct, s/he should apply to the courts him- or herself. If you are threatened by your employer for not doing something that clearly falls outside of your job duties, file a complaint with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC). Employers are not permitted to retaliate against you for filing such a complaint. There are also statutes (laws) against workplace coercion/retaliation, such as those defined here.
“Do courts send out text messages about restraining orders?”
I’ve never heard of this, no.
“Do I have to go back to court to quash a restraining order?”
An attorney could prepare the paperwork for you, but it’s possible the court will require a followup hearing that you would have to attend.
“Do I need an attorney to fight a restraining order…?”
Maybe not. If “maybe not” isn’t what you want to bank your future well-being on, get an attorney. Hock your car if you have to.
“[Do] I, the plaintiff, have every right to drop my protective order anytime before my court date?”
You have the right to apply (move) for the order’s vacation. It’s possible that a judge, at his or her discretion, could deny your motion.
“Do judges hold people in contempt for violating a restraining order…?”
Yes.
“Do judges like attorneys at restraining order hearings?”
No, because it complicates things and makes them accountable for their rulings. Bring one. Bring two.
“Do narcissistic men trick courts into giving them restraining orders?”
With ease, yes, and a good deal of relish, besides. Narcissistic women, too. Glib lying comes naturally to narcissistic sociopaths, and lying successfully (bending others to their will) gratifies their egos, which know no bounds. Narcissists have a pathological lust for vengeance, and restraining orders not only cater to their talents—social manipulation and dominance—but are very effective at wreaking havoc on the lives of those whom they target for revenge.
“Do police call if someone takes out an injunction or restraining order on you?”
If the plaintiff first filed a complaint with the police, possibly. If the plaintiff went straight to the courthouse, you may not be informed you’ve been issued a restraining order until you’re served with it (though a phone call from a cop may constitute “service” in some locales).
“Do police inform neighbors of no-contact orders?”
Typically, no.
“Do restraining orders prevent people from making phone calls to employers?”
A restraining order may forbid a defendant from making phone calls to the employer of the plaintiff, yes, if the employer and the plaintiff share the same workplace. Typically restraining orders will list those locations that are off-limits to a defendant. Calling an employer may be a gray area. The purpose of a restraining order is to restrict a defendant from contacting its plaintiff.
“Do the police track your phone with restraining orders?”
Unless the circumstances were extraordinary ones, no. To the best of my knowledge, the police would have to apply to the court for permission to tap a telephone line or monitor its records, which authorization would only be granted in the case of probable criminal activity. There might be exceptions under the Patriot Act, but it isn’t standard protocol, no. Millions of restraining orders are issued each year, and there aren’t resources enough for the police to monitor that many phones. You would likely have grounds for filing a lawsuit, besides, if your privacy were invaded in this way without justification.
“Do women with borderline personality disorder make false rape allegations?”
False allegations of a sexual nature are common, yes. One female respondent to this blog, the long-term girlfriend of a man who’s likely a borderline, reported being accused of rape (coerced sex). Another woman, whose borderline personality-disordered boyfriend had physically abused her, was accused of sexual kinks in court, which worked to explain away her allegations of violence. From “BPD Distortion Campaigns”: “What lies do BPs [borderline personalities] tell? Often they revolve around false claims of partner abuse, child abuse, perverse sexual behaviors, drug and substance abuse, mental illness, and criminal conduct.”
“Do you get served a new restraining order when it’s modified…?”
Restraining order laws and procedures vary from state to state, but probably you would simply be mailed a copy of the modified terms.
“Do you have to notify your job [that] you have a PPO against someone?”
No, but it wouldn’t be a bad idea if this person legitimately poses a danger to you or others.
“Do you have to out that you have an order of protection on a job application?”
To the best of my knowledge, you’re under no ethical obligation to report that you’re the recipient of a civil restraining order to a prospective employer unless asked. Note that restraining orders are civil instruments and do not mean that you’ve been convicted of a crime. A restraining order equates (in legal significance, anyway) to a civil misdemeanor and doesn’t represent a criminal anything.
“Does a denied temporary restraining order stay on my record?”
Possibly. Some respondents to this blog report that they’ve been denied jobs because of vacated restraining orders (ones, that is, that were dismissed/quashed). You should endeavor to find out what kind of residue remains on public record and see that it’s expunged. Since you’re arguably a victim of abuse of process/malicious prosecution, don’t hesitate to go to the courthouse and request an interview with a judge to see that your record is cleared, particularly if the order was approved and quashed on appeal. If the court approved the ex parte order in the first place, it’s the court’s responsibility to see that you’re not punished for a judicial error.
“Does a restraining order include my new girlfriend, too?”
Not per se, no. A restraining order only applies to its defendant/respondent. It may, however, expressly prohibit “third-party contact” with the plaintiff/petitioner, which means that if your new girlfriend were to contact the plaintiff and that contact could be construed as being instigated by you, you could be charged with violating the order. Your girlfriend’s actions, in other words, aren’t restricted, but if she were to act injudiciously toward the plaintiff, you could end up paying for it.
“Does a restraining order stay on your record?”
Yes, indefinitely.
“Does calling an elementary school saying I am abusive to children count for slander?”
Yes, provided the allegation has no factual basis, that is, you may sue for defamation if someone lies about you publicly in a way that injures your name and respectability.
“Does having a protection order against you prevent travel to the U.S.A.?”
I don’t see why it would (unless there’s only one departing flight, and the plaintiff is the pilot). If you’re worried, don’t hesitate to call or go to the courthouse that issued the order and ask.
“Does it help to have friends write letters for a temporary restraining order?”
The testimony of friends and associates who can speak to your character or who are material witnesses may help your defense, yes, especially if they can back up your account. The court would probably accept letters, but statements are more valid in the form of affidavits, which are simply written statements that have been witnessed by a notary public and made the equivalent of sworn testimony. Query Google for an example affidavit from your state to use as a template. If the judge allowed it, witnesses could also testify in person at your hearing.
“Does my harassment protection order protect me from being charged for defending myself?”
Laws vary from state to state, but probably not, no.
“Does the accuser have to be present in court for a restraining order?”
At an appeals hearing, yes, typically. The Constitution requires that a defendant be afforded the opportunity to face his or her accuser. Accordingly, defendants may interrogate (ask questions of) their accusers through the presiding judge (defendants, in other words, may pose their questions to the judge, and the court will communicate them to the plaintiff and require a response). Rules vary from state to state, however. An exception might be if the accuser has claimed mortal apprehension.
“Does the applicant for a protection order have to go to court if they are too unwell to?”
Eventually, yes, if the defendant has been granted an appeals hearing. You can, however, explain your condition and request a continuance (postponement).
“How are restraining orders abused?”
Restraining order abuse is limited only by the extent of an applicant’s imagination and malicious ill will. See this page for a more detailed answer.
“How can a judge just approve a restraining order when the [person] is lying?”
Restraining orders aren’t issued on the basis of truthful allegations; they’re issued on the basis of probability. What a plaintiff claims (violence, stalking, rape—it doesn’t matter) isn’t what’s important. If a judge is persuaded there’s a greater chance that the plaintiff has a reason to feel concern or fear or whatever than that the plaintiff is totally lying or complaining about nothing, then the “burden of proof” is satisfied. Lies aren’t prosecuted or even acknowledged, and allegations don’t have to be true to work. A judge rules on the forcefulness of a complaint, not on its strict factuality.
“How can I charge someone for intimidating me when they have a protective order filed against me?”
A restraining order only forbids your contacting or approaching the plaintiff. It in no way limits your taking legal action against him or her. If the plaintiff is harassing or threatening you, you may report his or her conduct to the police and ask an officer to request that s/he desist, or you can turn the tables and apply to the court for a restraining order against him or her. Keep a careful record (a dated log) of all such activity so you can substantiate your claim. Abuse of restraining orders to dominate or taunt defendants isn’t uncommon. Don’t allow yourself to be baited into violating the protection order, but don’t tolerate continued abuse, either.
“How can I drop a criminal restraining order?”
Restraining orders that issue from civil court are electively petitioned by plaintiffs. Criminal restraining orders (also called mandatory restraining orders or MROs) are issued by the court in conjunction with criminal cases. See this page prepared by a Denver attorney for explanations of what criminal restraining orders signify and how they may be vacated.
“How can I get a restraining order dropped for something I never did…?”
Appeal. Some jurisdictions assign appeals hearings. Others require that they be applied for by a certain deadline. This information should be on the first page of the injunction you received. Also, get an attorney if at all possible.
“How can somebody be stopped from filing false restraining orders?”
The only certain way I can think of is homicide, which isn’t a recourse I condone. Within the law, your options are limited. If this is a serial behavior, especially part of a campaign of harassment, you could have a lawyer draft a cease-and-desist letter (which is toothless), apply for a restraining order yourself (see this post), or sue (for harassment, emotional distress, etc.). There might also be grounds for pressing charges.
“How can you know if a TRO has been canceled if you are the person being restrained?”
The court should notify you—or you can look up your case online at the courthouse’s website to see if it’s been vacated (canceled, nullified).
“How can you make someone drop a false restraining order?”
I presume you mean legally? Sue for damages. Short of that, you could employ an attorney to “invite” the petitioner to recant in lieu of facing litigation. Appeal it, of course, if the window of opportunity hasn’t already shut.
“How common is restraining order abuse?”
It’s been extrapolated from government studies that as many as 80% of restraining orders are either frivolous (“unnecessary”) or fraudulent. A frivolous restraining order might be one that forbids someone from annoyingly texting too persistently. To put this in perspective, an injunction to stop someone from texting you (on pain of police arrest) may cost the state $1,300 to $2,000 just to process. A fraudulent restraining order would be one that’s based on lies and likely motivated by sheer malice (its cost to state resources is the same). It’s estimated that as many as three million restraining orders are filed each year. Therefore 2.4 million restraining orders might fall into the categories of frivolous or false (at a correspondent cost to the nation in the neighborhood of $3.2 billion).
“How do authorities make people feel when they come out to handle a restraining order situation?”
Cops’ responses will typically favor restraining order plaintiffs (that is, petitioners). Defendants, on the contrary, will be treated with suspicion, possibly even distaste.
“How do I check online to see if I have a domestic case against me?”
You would go to the website of the courthouse where the case was opened and enter your name (this may be the city courthouse or the county courthouse).
“How do I get my attorney fees back for lies about me to get a PPO…?”
Litigate. To recover a sum of a few thousand dollars, you could sue in small claims court.
“How do I handle a fake police report and false restraining order?”
Apply for an appeals hearing, and retain an attorney. See also this post.
“How do I know if I’ve been served a restraining order…?”
A constable will have put it in your hands. It’s possible, though, that you’ve been issued one and not served. If you know what jurisdiction (court) the order would have been sought in, the courthouse should be able to tell you. Technically, you shouldn’t be subject to arrest for violating a restraining order you were never served. Which isn’t to say you couldn’t be arrested. It’s happened.
“How do I prove my girlfriend punched herself in the eye for a domestic charge?”
You’d probably need video evidence or corroborating testimony from a witness.
“How [do I] prove to a judge in a civil harassment case [that] the defendant is mentally ill?”
If the plaintiff’s mental illness has been diagnosed or s/he is on doctor-prescribed medication for a mental condition, you may introduce this person’s medical history into evidence (which records would have to be obtained by subpoena). Otherwise you can testify to what you know about the plaintiff’s condition and offer what substantiation of aberrant behavior you can to support your defense. Restraining order deliberations are fast-food justice (appeals hearings are typically only minutes long). To do this well would probably require your obtaining legal counsel and moving for additional time from the court to prepare your case.
“How do I reply if I’m the defendant for a restraining order?”
There should be instructions on the injunction you were served. Otherwise check with your courthouse. And do whatever you have to do to secure the services of a qualified attorney. Consult this page for further details and a helpful link.
“How do I sue an ex-husband for false claims of abuse against my boyfriend?”
The complaint (lawsuit) would probably have to be filed by your boyfriend—unless you wanted to sue for injuries the false claims caused you. Ideally, you and/or he would want to employ an attorney. If you wanted to file a suit on your own, see this post.
“How do you communicate with someone who has [a restraining order] against you?
Indirectly and preferably through an attorney. Unless the restraining order specifies “no third-party contact” or “no third-party communication,” a mutual friend could speak on your behalf. The restraining order plaintiff could return to the courthouse and have the restraining order modified to forbid third-party contact, which would make even communication through a go-between a violation of the order. Until then, however, having someone speak for you wouldn’t strictly be a violation of the court’s order, which only forbids you from contacting or approaching the plaintiff.
“How [do you] get an order of protection dropped when the [district attorney] and judge won’t drop it at the protected party’s request?”
Your best course would be to consult an attorney. It may be possible to appeal the judge’s decision to a higher court. (Alternatively an attorney can assist you in expunging the order after its expiration.) See also the question above, “How can I drop a criminal restraining order?”
“How easy is it to get a restraining order…?”
As easy as walking and talking.
“How much does it cost to hire a lawyer if someone filed a restraining order against you…?”
A standard retainer is $500. For this a lawyer will review your case. Total fees to litigate it may run from $2,500 to $5,000.
“How to get protection from someone who keeps violating a PFA?”
Your question gets at the restraining order process’s dirty secret: a civil injunction is a piece of paper, and if a volatile/violent defendant has no respect for this document, it’s all but worthless. Unless you’re prepared to physically defend yourself (or hire a bodyguard), you’d do well to consider moving yourself out of harm’s reach, that is, relocating and keeping your new address private. You would want to change your phone number, too, obviously.
“I am the defendant in an order of protection. Can I ask for more time to collect my evidence?”
The worst that can happen is that you’re refused. To request more time, you’d want to go to the courthouse and file a motion for continuance (that is, a motion to be granted an extension/postponement). Explain what you’re after to the clerk. Having your case number handy will expedite things.
“I have a restraining order against me? Can a lawyer go for me?”
A lawyer can accompany and represent you. The court requires your presence at the hearing, however.
“I have a restraining order against me. If I ‘like’ a picture, is that still communication?”
Legally, maybe/maybe not, but since “liking” an image on Facebook does communicate both a feeling and your presence as an observer, it’s an ill-advised action. A defendant’s “liking” an image on the plaintiff’s Facebook page confirms that the defendant is monitoring the plaintiff, which, according to the climate of hysteria that prevails today, may well suggest “cyberstalking” to a judge (especially if the plaintiff or his or her attorney uses that word). Defendants have landed in hot water for sending flowers, butt-dialing plaintiffs, or, in one instance that gained media attention, because Google sent an automated email. The conceit of the restraining order process is that plaintiffs apply for restraining orders because they’re afraid for their safety. A judge, according to this conceit, may well interpret your action in the most sinister light possible, that is, as a taunt or as a reminder that you’re “still out there…watching.”
“I have a restraining order against my ex, but my children were canceled to be protected. Why?”
Evidently because the court held that whatever your grounds were for applying for the order didn’t apply to the children or legitimate their father’s being denied parental visitation rights.
“I have a restraining order in West Virginia. Does it count in Maryland?”
If you’re the defendant and you’re asking whether you would still have to observe the court’s order even if you moved, the answer is yes. For example, if you were forbidden to call or write to the restraining order plaintiff in one state, you would still be forbidden to do so even if you relocated. If you’re the restraining order plaintiff, the situation is more complicated, because the addresses you provided to the court in your former jurisdiction—that is, the places where the defendant is forbidden to go—will have changed.
“I have a restraining order on my ex. Can I still talk to his mum?”
You’re free to speak to whomever you like. Restraining orders’ restraints only apply to the actions of their defendants.
“I have an order of protection that was vacated. Does it need to be expunged?”
It’s possible. You’d think one would necessarily follow the other, but this isn’t necessarily the case. Courts get praises and federal subsidies for issuing restraining orders but nothing for revoking them. Clearing your record is in no one’s interest but yours. There are law firms that specialize in expungement, but start at the courthouse and see what you can find out or accomplish for free.
“I have no-contact orders in both criminal and civil court. Does one’s being dropped count for both courts?”
Probably not (separate cases, separate courts), though the dismissal of one case may support a motion or appeal to have the other case vacated (voided).
“I just turned 18 and want to remove my name from a restraining order my mom put on my boyfriend. How do I do that?”
Go to the courthouse that issued the restraining order and apply with the clerk (file a motion) to see a judge and have the restraining order modified or vacated (canceled).
“I made false allegations to obtain a PPO. What do I do?”
If the court order is still in effect, the ethical thing would be to return to the courthouse and have it vacated (canceled). You’re at no risk of punishment from the court (though I wouldn’t recommend that you inform the court you lied but just say you changed your mind). If you’re concerned that the defendant in the case will sue you for abuse of process, you could either call and apologize and offer to make amends, or you could postpone having the order rescinded, obtain the counsel of an attorney, and have the attorney broker an agreement with the defendant so that his or her feathers are smoothed before you have the order withdrawn. If the expense of hiring a lawyer is beyond consideration, you could have a third party (a mutual friend, for example) call the defendant and explain you’ve reconsidered. You always assume some risk when you commit perjury, but chances are the defendant will be relieved to have the matter concluded.
“I need a restraining order on someone. Do I have to put my home address on it?”
Very likely you’ll need to provide this information to the court, yes, but you may request that it not appear on the restraining order itself (that is, that it be withheld from the defendant). Often, if not typically, there are public and private components of restraining order applications. Express your concerns to the court. Keeping your home address private shouldn’t be a problem.
“I received a letter from an attorney in New York threatening me with a protective order. I live in Missouri. Whom do I complain to?”
It would depend on the allegations the attorney was making. If the attorney is writing to you on behalf of a client, ceasing contact with that person (the client) would be a good idea (if practical). Hopefully the matter would go no further. If the attorney has mistaken you for someone else, inform him or her of the mistake. If s/he’s harassing you for no reason, you can request that the s/he leave you alone. If the lawyer persisted without justification, you could apply for a restraining order against him or her alleging that you’ve been harassed and distressed (that is, take your complaint to the court). You could also register a complaint with the New York Bar Association or call the law firm the attorney is employed at. If you have an attorney yourself, make him or her aware of the situation and obtain his or her counsel (which would probably be to let the situation pacify itself). If you’re being harassed and threatened baselessly, you can also call your local police precinct and file a report and ask that an officer call the lawyer for you. Whether or how you act should really be based on what truth there is to the attorney’s allegations against you. You don’t want to inflame the situation pointlessly.
“I want to dismiss a protective order. Can the respondent sign a contract to leave me alone?”
This is a question best posed to an attorney. The probable difficulty would be in making such a contract legally binding. You might consider consulting a professional arbiter/mediator, someone who specializes in “alternative dispute resolution” (ADR).
“I want to take out a PPO on my mother. Can I if I’m a minor?”
Possibly, but you’d have to be represented by an adult, that is, an adult may be able to obtain one from the court on your behalf. Have an adult (preferably a guardian) accompany you to see a judge.
“[I was] found innocent of stalking, but my ex-boyfriend is still accusing me…. Can I sue for this?”
If the basis of your ex-boyfriend’s prosecution was malicious or fraudulent, certainly. Counts (torts, civil wrongs) that you alleged in such a suit might include abuse of process/malicious prosecution, defamation of character, fraud (in misrepresenting you to the court for the purpose of misleading a judge), and intentional infliction of emotional distress.
“I’m getting harassed by someone phoning and knocking on [my] door. What should I do?”
Keep a log of this conduct (or construct one) for reference or substantiation of the harassment in case you should need it. If you tell the person repeatedly to leave you alone and s/he persists anyway, you can apply to the court for a restraining order (assuming this person has no legitimate excuse for bothering you). Before taking this step, however, which can have have enduring consequences not just on the other person’s life but on yours, too, consider informing the person of your intention if s/he continues to bug you and waiting to see if that suffices to resolve the nuisance.
“If a girl has a restraining order on a guy, can you talk to him about her?”
Yes. Restraining orders are matters of public record and don’t forbid anyone from talking about anything. To avoid the possibility of exciting further allegations from the girl, however (for example, of harassment), it would be wisest to communicate in person or through a private medium. A protracted conversation on Facebook about a restraining order case wouldn’t necessarily be a violation of the restraining order—which only prohibits the guy from talking to the girl—but it might provoke the girl to cause the guy more legal grief. Though they often serve this purpose—and are often intended to serve this purpose—restraining orders are not gag orders.
“If a judge [dismisses] a protective order as frivolous, can the petitioner apply for an new one?”
Absurdly, yes. Some people are serial abusers. And some serial abusers go so far as to apply for multiple restraining orders against the same defendant in different jurisdictions (and they get them, too). Some readers have reported having spouses (exes, etc.) repeatedly file and then drop restraining orders against them. Because restraining orders are usually free and easy to obtain, they’re excellent both as tools of harassment (or taunting) and as a means to forcefully and continually re-exert one’s presence on the subject of a personal fixation: “You thought you were rid of me? Think again!”
“If a [restraining order] is vacated nunc pro tunc, does it still exist in the records?”
By definition, vacation (of judgment) means “the setting aside of a judgment on grounds that it was issued by mistake, inadvertence, surprise, excusable neglect or fraud” (Black’s Law Dictionary). The case should be expunged. Some respondents to this blog, however, have reported being hamstrung by vacated restraining orders (that is, ones that were ultimately found to be baseless). The court should be able to tell you whether record of the case remains publicly accessible. If so, take action.
“If I apply for a restraining order, and it is denied and then I get hurt, can I sue the court?”
You may have grounds to sue the judge, yes, which is why restraining orders are commonly awarded on a better-safe-than-sorry basis. It isn’t just protectiveness toward plaintiffs that biases judges but self-protection, as well, which is among the reasons justice in this process is inherently compromised.
“If I file [an] order of protection and leave [the] state, is it still valid?”
Yes. For the term of its effectiveness, it’s valid in both the state where it was petitioned and in all others where you register it. This policy is called “full faith and credit.”
“If I gave my wife’s sister a baby diaper, is that breaking the no-contact [order]?”
Strictly speaking, if the sister isn’t the plaintiff, no. Some orders may prohibit defendants from “harassing” family members of the plaintiff. The gift of a diaper wouldn’t seem to constitute harassment, but if your wife is the plaintiff, there’s no telling how a judge might rule if she represented your contact with her sister as “untoward” or “unwelcomed,” etc. (Pretend you’re a judge and consider how this claim sounds: “He’s been sneaking around, contacting members of my family, and trying to turn them against me.”)
“If I have a restraining order against me, do police check?”
If the police ran your records, the restraining order would pop up, yes.
“If I have a restraining order against my husband, can I have it modified?”
Yes. You just need to return to the courthouse.
“If I have never had a domestic violence case, and the person applying for a restraining order states there never was any abuse, will a judge grant a restraining order?”
Conceivably, yes. A plaintiff’s simply stating, “I’m afraid,” may very literally be all the more basis for issuing a restraining order that a judge requires.
“If I haven’t been served for a protection injunction, and the person wants to drop the order, what do they do?”
Irrespective of whether you’re served with the order or not, the plaintiff may voluntarily withdraw it by returning to the court where it was petitioned and requesting that it be vacated.
“If I made a false report to get a restraining order, can I be charged four years later?”
If you lied under oath about a material fact to obtain a restraining order, you’ll be vulnerable to prosecution for perjury for the term of the statute. Perjury is a felony crime, the statute of limitation for which is seven years.
“If I put a restraining order against someone, can I still talk on the phone with them?”
A restraining order application may allow you to indicate that communication by phone is acceptable. In my state, there are a series of tick boxes to specify what forms of contact, if any, are okay with the applicant (for example, email, phone, or post). If you’ve previously indicated otherwise on an existing order, you may return to the courthouse and modify it to permit phone conversation.
“If I put a restraining order [on] someone, and we both violate it, who’s in trouble more?
The party who may be subject to arrest is the defendant. A restraining order doesn’t explicitly restrict the actions of its plaintiff; it’s presumed that you wouldn’t have wasted the court’s time and taxpayers’ money by applying for a restraining order you didn’t intend to honor.
“If I put a restraining order on the person living in my house, do they have to leave immediately?”
As soon as s/he is served with the order, yes.
“If I represent myself, do I have the right to question my accuser?” / “During [a] protection from stalking hearing, can [the] plaintiff be interviewed?”
Yes. You may present your question to the judge, and s/he will ask it of the plaintiff. See also this post. I recommend you get an attorney, though, if at all possible.
“If I’m under oath, can I be sued for slander?”
Substantiation of an allegation of slander requires proof that the defendant lied. Truthful statements, no matter how unkind, don’t qualify as slander.
“If I’ve been served a restraining order, do I have to appear in court?”
If you want to contest the justice of the court’s order, yes. If you don’t appear in court, you’ll forfeit your opportunity to appeal the restraining order.
“If my restraining order is dropped, can I see my kids?”
If you’re asking as the defendant, your visitation rights would presumably be restored if the restraining order were vacated, yes, because it would be as if it had never been issued. If possible, though, consult with a family attorney. If you’re asking as the plaintiff, you won’t lose visitation rights consequent to your restraining order’s being vacated, per se, but if the order was malicious, it’s conceivable that the defendant could instigate a reciprocal legal action of his or her own against you.
“If my sister has a restraining order against her husband, am I still able to speak to him?”
Of course. Your actions are only limited by a restraining order if you’re the defendant on that order. An injunction against someone else in no way pertains to you.
“If my [temporary restraining order] gets dismissed, can I turn around and get one against my spouse?
Yes, assuming you could persuade a judge you needed one. You could in fact apply for a restraining order even if the restraining order against you is upheld, though in some states restrictions apply to obtaining a reciprocal restraining order (in which case you would have to be very insistent).
“If my wife has a restraining order, can she still email me mean stuff?”
Having a restraining order against you doesn’t mean you have to tolerate abuse from its plaintiff. You can report this misconduct to the police and ask them to call your wife and ask her to stop, or you can save the emails, print them out, and apply with the court for a restraining order against her, alleging harassment. Keep a dated log of all acts of abuse to present to a judge. This blog has gotten a number of inquiries that suggest restraining order plaintiffs believe that because they’ve obtained injunctions against others, they can harass (or even assault) these people with impunity. This isn’t the case. Restraining order defendants have the same entitlement to legal protections that anyone else has.
“If restraining orders are vacated, does it mean malicious prosecution?”
Most states permit tort actions for the malicious institution of civil actions like restraining orders. For a fully fleshed definition of malicious prosecution, consult Black’s Law Dictionary, which is the standard legal reference: “One who takes an active part in the initiation, continuation or procurement of civil proceedings against another is subject to liability to the other for wrongful civil proceedings if: (a) he acts without probable cause, and primarily for a purpose other than that of securing the proper adjudication of the claim in which the proceedings are based, and (b) except when they are ex parte, the proceedings have terminated in favor of the person against whom they are brought.” Abuse of process/malicious prosecution are sister torts. One or the other would likely apply (“A malicious abuse of legal process occurs where the party employs it for some unlawful object, not the purpose which it is intended by the law to effect; in other words a perversion of it”). See your state’s definitions of malicious prosecution and abuse of process to confirm applicability to your case.
“If someone calls me a bitch [in a] text, can I press charges on that person?”
You can sue someone for defamation, that is, publicly lying about you in a damaging way. But calling someone a name isn’t against the law, and being called a name isn’t grounds for prosecution. A basis for legal action (against harassment) would be someone’s routinely shouting insults at you or texting insults after your repeatedly telling him or her to leave you alone.
“If someone drops a restraining order, what happens?”
The case is vacated, and the injunction is null and void. The defendant should nevertheless endeavor to ensure that traces of it are removed from his/her record. A restraining order can only be “dropped” by the court.
“If someone has a restraining order against me, can I write about it?”
Yes. A restraining order forbids you from contacting or approaching the order’s applicant (the plaintiff in the case) on pain of police arrest. It does not, however, abrogate your constitutional entitlement to free speech. Restraining orders are matters of public record.
“If someone has a restraining order against you, and they get locked up for violating a restraining order, is theirs still active against you?”
Yes (though you’d have to work pretty hard to violate it in that case). A restraining order can only be vacated (deactivated, canceled) by an act of the court.
“If someone has a restraining order [against you] and they walk into the same bar as you do, do you have to leave?”
Consult the order issued against you to see what actions/locations are forbidden. Sometimes a defendant is ordered to keep a specific distance from the plaintiff at all times (x number of blocks, for example). In any case, avoiding the plaintiff would clearly be a good idea.
“If someone has a restraining order against you, can you write a letter to the media complaining about how you were treated?”
Certainly. A restraining order only places restrictions on your actions vis-à-vis its plaintiff; it doesn’t deny you your constitutional right to free speech. You can speak about the plaintiff (reasonably and truthfully) and/or about the case s/he brought against you and how you were treated by the court; you just can’t speak to the plaintiff. Restraining orders, their prosecution, and how they’re ruled on are matters of public record. Obtain the transcript or audio recording of your hearing(s) from the courthouse for your reference and/or a journalist’s.
“If someone loses a restraining order, does the plaintiff need to pay the defendant’s lawyer’s fees?”
That would seem to be a just requirement, but no, you’d have to sue to recover your costs—or have your lawyer request compensation from the plaintiff in lieu of filing a lawsuit (in lieu of means instead of). To recover a few thousand dollars, you could litigate in small claims court yourself. Request damages for lost time and emotional distress, also.
“If the accuser doesn’t show up in a PFA court, do the charges get dropped?”
Typically in such a case, the restraining order is dismissed for “failure to prosecute,” yes.
“If the charges are dismissed, is the protection order also terminated?”
If that were the case, you would probably have been informed at the hearing. Endeavor to find out from the court. File a motion at the courthouse to see a judge if necessary.
“If the police put a restraining order against your boyfriend, and you break it, will they take [your] son away?”
It’s possible that the police would report you to Child Protective Services if they learned that your boyfriend was visiting or staying at your home in violation of a restraining order.
“If there’s a false restraining order against someone I know, should I inform the police?”
Informing the police of a fraudulent restraining order wouldn’t affect its validity, because it issued from the court, and only the court can vacate it. You could, though, offer to give testimony at the defendant’s appeals hearing (or in a civil suit alleging fraud) or provide him or her with an affidavit (a sworn, written statement) corroborating the falsehood of the plaintiff’s claims.
“If there is a restraining order against me, but the plaintiff dies, does the restraining order get canceled?”
No, it’s unlikely the court will even know. Inquire with an attorney or the court to see if this is grounds to have the order vacated.
“If you are the defendant in a domestic violence criminal case, and charges are dismissed, can you sue for false allegations? If so, what is the minimum I can sue for?”
You certainly could sue, yes. Applicable torts might include fraud, defamation of character, and intentional infliction of emotional distress. The maximum you could litigate for would likely depend on the jurisdiction and venue in which the case was tried. If you’re asking, for example, if you could sue for $100,000, the answer is yes. Whether a judge or jury would conclude that the degree of your suffering deserves such remuneration would depend on the nature and extent of your injuries and losses and your ability to substantiate them.
“If you don’t get served, does that mean you don’t get a restraining order?”
For a restraining order to enter effect, it must be served on the defendant.
“If you have a restraining order against someone and decide to move back in, does that nullify the order?”
Not in the eyes of the law. You need to inform the court that you’ve changed your mind and have the order vacated.
“If you have a temporary restraining order, are you allowed to move?”
Yes. If you’re the defendant on the order, though, you have to mind whatever restrictions have been placed on your coming near the plaintiff. You’re going to excite friction, obviously, if you move in next door or just up the street.
“If you have an order of protection, can you travel?”
Of course. A restraining order is a civil injunction barring you from certain actions toward a specific person; you’re not on probation. To understand what restrictions have been placed on your activities, consult the order you were issued. These restrictions are usually limited to contacting or approaching the plaintiff (or going to his or her place of residence and work and/or study). This law firm, however, reports a protection order could be an impediment to travel:
“If you invite your spouse over, does it nullify your PPO?”
No, but you should.
“If you needed a hard copy of a protection-from-abuse order, whom would you contact?”
You would go to the courthouse that issued the order. You might be charged a photocopy fee.
“If you put a restraining order against someone and then change your mind about it, can you stop it?”
Yes. You can have the order vacated with no repercussions by returning to the courthouse.
“If you’re defending an ex parte order, can you serve the plaintiff with divorce papers?”
The restraining order shouldn’t prohibit you from serving legal documents on its petitioner. If in doubt, consult the order itself for confirmation of this. If still in doubt, don’t hesitate to check with the courthouse.
“If you took out a temporary restraining order, do you have to show up?” / “What happens if the plaintiff doesn’t show up for a temporary restraining order hearing?” / “What can happen to me if I don’t show up for a court date, [and] I am the plaintiff…?” / “Whoever filed a harassment charge against me—would they have to show up in court?” / “Will a warrant go out for your arrest if you applied for an extension for a TPO against someone but don’t show up for the hearing?” / “Does the plaintiff have to show up for a restraining order hearing?”
The consequence of a plaintiff’s/petitioner’s not appearing for a hearing to finalize (or extend) a civil restraining order would likely be its being dismissed/vacated for “failure to prosecute.” In other words, the petition would be tossed out. It isn’t always required, however, that plaintiffs represented by attorneys appear at hearings, for example, when domestic violence is alleged. Whether this is only true in criminal restraining order cases—when restraining orders are issued in conjunction with criminal trials—I’m not certain. To the best of my knowledge, plaintiffs who fail to prosecute (don’t show) are not sanctioned/penalized by the court; their requests are just denied. Defendants who don’t appear for hearings to finalize civil restraining orders forfeit their opportunity to challenge the allegations against them. Default judgments in favor of the plaintiffs will be entered—unless the plaintiffs don’t show, either.
“In an order of protection hearing, can you be charged with attorney fees?”
Only your own attorney’s fees (assuming you hired representation). If the opposing party employed counsel, that was his or her choice, and s/he would be responsible for the costs.
“In order for me to sue someone, do I have to press charges?”
No. Charges are allegations of criminal violations. You may press charges, for example, if someone punches you. Lawsuits are civil actions. Allegations you make in a lawsuit are torts (civil wrongs), though you can sue someone for criminal misconduct.
“Is a false restraining order grounds for libel?”
If the plaintiff in the case made false public allegations that maligned your name and respectability, then yes. To sue for libel/defamation of character, you would have to prove that the plaintiff lied about you in a damaging way. The statute of limitation for libel/defamation is usually one year, so you would want to pursue legal action promptly.
“Is a ‘friend request’ a violation of protection order?”
If you’re asking as a defendant, possibly. Consult the order you were issued, and see if all contact (including mail and email) is forbidden. If you’re asking as a plaintiff, the answer is the same; but taxpayer money would probably be better spent if you just denied or ignored the request.
“Is a narcissist capable of slashing his own tires and blaming it on his ex-girlfriend?”
Lying that’s both cunning and dramatic is certainly associated with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD), though social manipulation more commonly typifies the frauds of narcissists than their actually dirtying their hands. Any motivated liar, however, is capable of a simple frame-up like this.
“Is [a] protection order a felony, and does it come if [the] judge dismisses it?”
A restraining order is a civil misdemeanor. A dismissed restraining order should be vacated and expunged from your record. You should confirm that it is, though. Some respondents to this blog have reported being denied employment because of vacated restraining orders (ones, that is, that were ultimately found to be baseless). Apparently the vacated orders remained publicly accessible.
“Is a restraining order a form of control for a narcissist?”
Yes, absolutely—of control, domination, intimidation, assertion of superiority, revenge, etc. These are textbook urges for someone with narcissistic personality disorder.
“Is a restraining order still in effect…if both persons on the order have sex with each other?”
Yes. Only the court can vacate (cancel) a restraining order. Consensual relations or cohabitation is still recognized legally as a violation of the court’s order, and places the defendant in jeopardy of arrest. Unless the restraining order was petitioned by the DA, however, the plaintiff can go to the courthouse and move to have the restraining order lifted (vacated).
“Is a restraining order valid if the birthday is wrong…?”
Yes, most likely. If you were served with a restraining order, you were served with a restraining order. Basing an appeal on a minor factual error like this is unlikely to lead to a restraining order’s being vacated (canceled). If you pointed out this mistake, the court would probably just correct it.
“[Is a wife] permitted to request a restraining order on behalf of her husband?”
Only if her husband is incompetent to request the restraining order himself (because of mental or physical disability, for example).
“Is attacking my attorney a violation of [a] restraining order?”
Only if the attorney is the plaintiff on that order.
“Is calling a family member to contact the plaintiff for money a violation?”
Possibly. You’d want to determine whether the restraining order against you forbids “third-party contact.” Oftentimes this isn’t formally forbidden but can be later upon the plaintiff’s returning to the court to have the injunction modified. Another consideration would be what sort of response you expected to get, that is, if the restraining order was malicious, it’s unlikely you’re going to get a favorable answer, and the plaintiff could use the request to complicate your life further and make you look even worse to the court. A family member could make the request on your behalf. Where you might run into trouble is if the family member were put on the spot and testified that you asked him/her to make it.
“Is filing a bogus PPO harassment?”
Clearly. If you’re asking if you can press charges, no.
“Is following someone on Twitter a violation of a protection order?”
What activities constitute a violation of a court order will be specified on that order. Following someone on Twitter is clearly an act of monitoring, which could be construed by the court as violating the spirit of the order. Somebody who’s forbidden all contact with the plaintiff on a court order should cease all relations, even passive ones, to avoid running afoul of the law.
“Is it a violation of a restraining order if I add my ex’s brother on Facebook?”
No, not unless the restraining order explicitly prohibits you from communicating with the brother (for example, because he’s a minor dependent in his sister’s care). Restraining orders don’t extend to third parties even if those third parties are mutual friends or are related to plaintiffs. Exercise caution, though, if the brother is a minor and his parents might object to his talking with you, because his parents could petition a restraining order against you, too, possibly just on the grounds that they’re apprehensive of you or whatever. Also think twice about asking the brother to speak to his sister on your behalf, because she could return to the court and allege that you’re trying to sneak around the restraining order’s proscriptions.
“Is it hard for a plaintiff to get a restraining order vacated?”
A plaintiff, no. A plaintiff may have a restraining order vacated at any time while it’s in effect—or s/he can cooperate with the defendant in having it vacated after its expiration by filing a nunc pro tunc motion. For a defendant to get a restraining order vacated, it’s very hard.
“Is it illegal to leave the state if you have a restraining order?”
No. All that’s required by the law is that you mind the restraining order’s prohibitions wherever you go. It would still be illegal, for instance, to contact the plaintiff if the order forbid you to even if you traveled or moved to another state.
“Is it lawful to let someone live with you [whom] you have a restraining order against?”
It’s unlawful for someone to live with you whom you have a restraining order against. The defendant is the one who may be arrested. If you have children, and you’ve invited someone you swore a restraining out against to live with you, you may put yourself at risk of interference by Child Protective Services if the police were to discover the arrangement or, for example, if a neighbor reported it. If you’ve reconsidered the restraining order, you may return to the court and request that it be vacated.
“Is it legal to write a check after a restraining order?”
It’s unclear to me what your concern is. What activities a restraining order forbids you from engaging in will be specified on the order. Even sending a check to the restraining order’s plaintiff may well be against the law. However, writing a check for your groceries, for example, wouldn’t be. If you’re asking because your checking account is one you share with the plaintiff, you’d do best to check with an attorney or the court to find out what entitlement you have to joint monies.
“Is libel a violation of [an] order of protection?”
Not per se. Libel is a civil tort that may be litigated in a lawsuit.
“Is my speaking to my wife’s lawyer a violation of a protection order?”
No, unless specifications on the protection order say otherwise, you can talk to anyone you want to aside from the restraining order plaintiff. You would want to avoid her attorney’s being able to construe what you said to him as an attempt to convey a message to her, though. In other words, don’t ask him to be your go-between. This wouldn’t necessarily be a violation of the restraining order, per se, but it might prompt your wife to have the injunction modified to forbid third-party contact (that is, communication with her through a third party). You could, of course, have your own lawyer speak to your wife about any legal action you are considering—though this is most commonly done by mail.
“Is perjury on a restraining order a felony?”
Yes. Lying in court or in any sworn statement is perjury, which is a felony crime—though it’s one that’s rarely prosecuted and only in cases of social prominence.
“Is posting photos online a violation of a restraining order?”
Not per se. Restraining orders specify what activities are forbidden to their defendants. The typical forbidden activities are approaching or contacting the orders’ plaintiffs.
“Is restraining order extension automatic?”
Typically, no, an extension must be applied for (though laws and protocols vary from state to state). It would be nice to say, besides, that some substantive grounds would have to exist for an extension’s being awarded, but one may be approved on the allegation of continued or renewed apprehension, which may be credited by the court on no more ascertainable a basis than the plaintiff’s say-so.
“Is sending a friend request on Facebook breaking a restraining order?”
If the plaintiff of the order has requested that all contact be forbidden, then yes. Consult the specifics of the order you were issued. The police don’t weigh the harm or harmlessness of a violation, they just slap the cuffs on.
“Is suing someone a violation of a restraining order?”
No, a restraining order is not an impediment to pursuing a civil action against the plaintiff. See the response above to the question, “Can you still sue someone if you have a restraining order against you?” See other related responses for torts that will likely apply to your case.
“Is the defendant in violation of [an] order or protection for ‘third party contact’ if it is not written in a full order of protection?”
What actions an injunction enjoins a defendant from engaging in should be specified on the court’s order. For third-party contact to be in violation of a court order, the defendant would have to have been informed that such contact was forbidden. If a plaintiff objects to third-party contact, typically the court will modify the order accordingly and inform the defendant of the modification.
“Is there any punishment for filing a false restraining order?”
None. Lying on an affidavit to the court (or in any sworn testimony) is perjury, a felony crime. The statute is seldom enforced, however, and only then in cases of public prominence.
“Is there any way to file defamation charges against someone who makes false statements in a restraining order?”
Yes. Sue for damages. Defamation is a civil tort with a one-year statute of limitation.
“It was self-defense. How does he get a restraining order on me?”
Restraining order applications are approved based on the persuasive quality of a plaintiff’s presentation to the judge (or sometimes simply on his or her filling out the form correctly). This interview is a five- or 10-minute screen test, not a diligent weighing of verifiable facts.
“Just because I told a wife her husband was having an affair, is that grounds for a restraining order?”
Not per se. Legitimate grounds for a restraining order might be your repeatedly contacting the wife after she asked you not to. In practice, though, restraining orders may be issued on no legitimate grounds at all or on the basis of skewed or fabricated evidence. If you were the person the husband was having an affair with, there would be ample motive for the wife to paint you in a false light to the court (that is, to get payback).
“Must you report to [your] employer about [a] restraining order?”
Unless doing so is court-ordered or the terms of your employment contract dictate otherwise, you’re under no compulsion to inform your employer. A restraining order equates to a civil misdemeanor; being issued one doesn’t mean you have a criminal record.
“My boyfriend’s ex-wife said I harassed her, and she was a granted a six-month do-not-harass order. Does this prevent me from being around his son?”
Not per se. Unless the boy is also included on the order, your spending time with him isn’t off-limits that I know of. You’d just have to take care that you observed the restraints prescribed by the court’s order to the letter, that is, that you didn’t contact or come within a certain distance of the ex-wife, for example. If the ex-wife has full custody, of course, then she can prevent the boy’s seeing you. Surely your boyfriend can find out whether his ex-wife objects to your being around their son. If she does, you’d do well to let things settle out for the duration of the injunction. If the ex-wife is acting jealously/vindictively, she can rain all manner of hell on you and your boyfriend through the courts or Child Protective Services. These bureaucratic systems are easily abused and can turn lives upside down.
“My ex has lied to obtain a protection order against me. What do I need to prove he has made up the accusations?”
You need to go before a judge and appeal the injunction, of course—ideally with a lawyer by your side. Bend heaven and earth to acquire an attorney’s help. Once something like this sticks, it stays stuck, and you don’t want this gnawing away at you for years to come. (Also, having a protection order in place against you will make you very vulnerable to anything your ex may do or to any further lies he may concoct in the future.) You need to create a reasonable doubt in the judge’s mind. If you have concrete evidence that your ex has lied, by all means bring it to the judge’s attention. If not, you need to convincingly demonstrate that he had an ulterior motive for lying about you (to shut you up, for example, or spitefully injure you or gain sole possession of something you would otherwise have a mutual claim to). In these cases—notwithstanding court rhetoric to the contrary—the burden is on the defendant. If your ex has claimed you’re dangerous, persuade the judge you’re not. See also this post for a basic defense orientation. The rule of thumb is speak to the charges and explain why they’re false.
“My ex-girlfriend has an order of protection against me, and three months later she stopped by my house and we talked then she got upset and hit me. Can I get her arrested, or will I get in trouble for letting her in my house?”
I would imagine if she voluntarily came to your house, your letting her in couldn’t be construed as a violation of the restraining order. It’s your house. But if you were seriously injured and you can prove this and want to press charges, you should consult with an attorney before racing off to the police station. Also you’d need documentation of the injury (photos and a medical diagnosis).
“My ex-wife has filed for three orders of protection that have been dismissed. Can I sue her for harassment?”
Consult with an attorney. You can always file a suit yourself, and you can certainly allege harassment, infliction of suffering, loss of time and money, etc. An attorney, though, can best advise you on how to arrest this kind of misconduct.
“My ex-wife is dating someone [who] has a PPO. Can I stop my children from being around him?”
If you’re legitimately worried for the welfare of your children, you could inform Child Protective Services of the restraining order against your ex-wife’s boyfriend and express your concerns. Activating this bureaucratic machine may have repercussions, though, that you should weigh in advance. Both CPS and restraining orders are notoriously abused (and easily abused). I mention this, because there’s no telling how your wife might respond (that is, what allegations she might turn around and make against you in retaliation). You might also have grounds for seeking sole custody. If it’s within your means, consult with a family attorney.
“My girlfriend filed a restraining order. Can I get her medical records?”
Consult with an attorney. Medical records are confidential, but there may be grounds for moving the court to require that they be produced (if, for example, your girlfriend had a documented mental condition that would discredit her allegations). According to Law and the Physician: A Practical Guide by Edward P. Richards and Katharine C. Rathbun: “In general, a person’s medical records may be used in court if that person’s medical condition is at issue.” You can file a discovery request (request for production) or a subpoena to try to obtain these records, but it’s possible that the plaintiff or her physician(s) would refuse to comply on the grounds that these records are privileged.
“My injunction provision…stated that I can talk to my abuser on the phone. Can I email or text instead?”
You’re not going to get in trouble for doing so, but the defendant could be placed in violation of the order if s/he responded. Since you’re effectively calling the shots, there shouldn’t be any complication if you return to the court and modify your restraining order to explicitly allow these forms of communication. The court will notify the defendant of the modification.
“My kids and my wife are in a shelter. She filed in court for a TPO and a divorce. What shall I do?”
Apply for a hearing to appeal the restraining order, and get an attorney post haste.
“My son and I, we have an injunction for domestic violence against [his] father, and he violated our injunction. What law was broken?”
If your ex-husband/ex-boyfriend violated the terms of the injunction, you would simply report the violation to the police, who would determine what additional crimes, if any, the defendant committed.
“My wife has a TPO against me. Can my mom talk to her?”
Unless “third-party contact” or “third-party communication” is prohibited by the order, yes. If it is prohibited, your mom couldn’t be your go-between. Your mother’s not constrained in any way by your restraining order (nor is anyone else). She can’t get in trouble. But you could be charged with violating the order if third-party contact is forbidden and what your mother had to say could be construed as coming from you (and your wife complained about it). If third-party contact isn’t forbidden, it’s still possible that your wife could apply to the court for a revision of your order disallowing third-party contact if she asserts that you put your mom up to talking with her. Unless or until your wife opted to do that, though, your mom’s talking to her would be fine. Also, your mom could just say it was her idea. Obviously if your wife refuses to talk to her, your mother should honor that and not risk your wife’s applying for a restraining order against her, too. It’s often the case that when someone learns how easily this process can be (ab)used, he or she (ab)uses it repeatedly.
“Nine years ago I got a protection order falsely. Can I get it expunged…?”
There are two ways this may be possible. If you can obtain the cooperation of the petitioner (the plaintiff in the case), you can jointly file a nunc pro tunc motion through the court to have the order vacated. You would need the help of a qualified attorney. Alternatively a law firm in your city or another city in your state that specializes in records expungement may be able to clear your record for you. The ability to exercise this option depends on the laws in your particular state (in my state, Arizona, nothing ever goes away without the cooperation of the plaintiff: once it sticks, it’s stuck). Try a Google search using the terms restraining order* + expungement + your city and/or state. You should be able to call or email, explain your situation, and find out whether the firm can assist you.
“Perjury and false restraining orders—what to do?”
Militate for the prosecution of perjurers and for legislative reform. Bring your case to the attention of the press, and call or write your local lawmakers.
Stop False Allegations of Domestic Violence
“Restraining order: I need text message records. [What to do?]”
You could file a discovery request (request for production) or subpoena the records, but the other party could easily delete them from his or her phone if s/he hasn’t already. It’s possible that you could subpoena the records from the service provider (cell phone company) if it retains these records. Consult an attorney if feasible.
“Should I move if I have a restraining order against me?”
There’s no way to run from a restraining order against you. It’s super-glued to your public record and will follow you wherever you go. You would also still be subject to the limitations it imposes on your actions even if you relocated to another state.
“Someone filed an injunction against me [whom] I have not seen in three years, and I live in a different state. [What do I do?]”
Appeal the order. For someone to file against you from another state, s/he would have to establish repeated contacts (by phone, for example, or mail or email). If you haven’t approached or communicated with the defendant despite that person’s repeatedly asking you not to within the previous 12 months, there’s no legitimate grounds for a restraining order.
“Someone has opened a peace order against me. If I still have pictures of them taken from my phone, can that be used against me in court?”
If you’re asking whether it’s illegal for you to have pictures of the plaintiff, no, it isn’t (presuming, of course, that they were taken before the peace order was issued). If you’re asking whether the court can compel you to produce photographs you have that may somehow incriminate you, possibly. That is, it’s not a crime for you to have photographs, but if the pictures, for example, showed you engaged in a crime (or proved that you had photographed the plaintiff after being ordered to keep a certain distance from him or her), they could be used against you, I suppose.
“Someone I know is using my address and phone number, and I’m getting calls for her from the court and a warrant [that’s been put] out for her. How can I stop her from using my address and phone number?”
Ask her not to would be the obvious course. If she’s nowhere to be found, though, there’s not much you can do to arrest this, because requesting that the police warn her off would only work if they had a means to call her or track her down. Same goes with alleging harassment to the court (and the grounds would be thin, besides). The proactive solution, if you don’t have a way to reach her, might be to contact both the court and the police, and inform them that they have the wrong address/phone number and that you don’t want to be bothered further with a matter that has nothing to do with you. Impress upon them that you have the right to be left alone and that they’re infringing upon your privacy and causing you distress. If you wanted, you could also provide them with the most recent address/phone number you have for the person or let them know who they might contact to find her.
“The girl who put a restraining order on me messaged me on Facebook. What should I do?”
Save the message and make a hard copy in case you need it in future (take a screen shot—and save it, too). If you choose to respond to it, your doing so could put you at risk of arrest. You’d be wiser having a third party intermediate if you think there’s a chance of your resolving differences. She can have the restraining order vacated if she chooses. Just take care that you’re not baited into landing yourself in jail. Also be aware that “thirty-party communication” may be expressly prohibited by the order. If so, even talking through a friend would be a violation, and your only risk-free option would be mediation through an attorney.
“What are acceptable reasons for requesting to drop a PFA?”
If you’re the plaintiff, you can simply say you acted rashly, have changed your mind, etc. If you’re the defendant, grounds for requesting that a restraining order be vacated may be that it’s unnecessary and/or that the plaintiff acted impulsively in the heat of a dispute, that the plaintiff has exaggerated his or her allegations, that these allegations are maliciously false, etc.
“What can I do if my ex-girlfriend is putting my son’s picture on her Facebook [page] without my permission?”
If you object, ask her not to.
“What can I do if someone got a restraining order on me, and I’m in fear [for] my life?”
Someone’s having a restraining order against you doesn’t mean you can’t report his or her misconduct to the police or apply to the court for a restraining order of your own against the plaintiff of the one against you. Other respondents to this blog have reported having restraining orders issued against them by plaintiffs who were violent abusers or stalkers. Restraining orders are excellent tools of domination and provide their plaintiffs with a sense of impunity (a sense that they can get away with anything). One commenter to this page assumed that having a restraining order against another person meant she could assault him or her if she felt like it and have the other person arrested if s/he fought back. Though it’s often the purpose they serve, restraining orders aren’t supposed to be a license to terrorize or abuse.
“What can you do if someone files a false injunction on you?”
Apply for an appeals hearing, and retain the services of an attorney. See also this post.
“What can you do with text messages that show someone is going to beat someone else up?”
Priority one, ethically, should be to inform the potential victim of the danger. Threatening messages could be reported to the police and/or possibly used as grounds for applying for a restraining order.
“[What do you do] when protective orders don’t work?”
If the situation is dire, clear out. Relocate to ensure your safety. Put as much distance between you and your abuser as possible. Change your name if necessary. Keep your home address private, and don’t give away your location on Facebook or the like. If you’re legitimately in danger, a piece of paper is worthless. See also Gavin de Becker’s book The Gift of Fear.
“What do you do when your wife lies to get a temporary injunction for protection from violence?”
Appeal. Act promptly. And get an attorney. Depending on the outcome, you might also consider suing for damages later (assuming you divorced).
“What does ‘case terminated’ mean in an order of protection case?”
In all likelihood, it means the case was vacated (canceled, nullified, voided). If you’re the defendant in the case, though, you should endeavor to make sure of this and to see that traces of the order are removed from your public record (that is, expunged).
“What does ‘Have you ever been the subject of a restraining order?’ mean?”
The questioner (an employer, I’m guessing) is asking whether you’ve ever had a restraining order issued against you.
“What does ‘interfere with plaintiff’ mean on a restraining order?”
A restraining order forbids its defendant (that is, its recipient) from interfering with its plaintiff (that is, its applicant). If you’re the recipient of a restraining order, you must not contact or approach its applicant. Plaintiff means the person who has complained to the court about you.
“What does it mean that my restraining order has been vacated?”
That means it has been nullified, canceled. If you’re the defendant on the order, though, make doubly sure that this is the case before undertaking any action that would qualify as a violation of the order.
“What evidence can I submit when contesting a restraining order?”
Anything you think would be relevant: records or other documents, prescriptions, photographs, statements from witnesses, etc.
“What grounds do you need to file [a] motion on [a] restraining order against you?”
None. You have the right to request an appeal and respond to allegations made against you.
“What happens if I talk to someone whom I have a restraining order against?”
Depending on the circumstances, you may place him or her in violation of the order and subject to arrest. Communicate through a third party or an attorney, or visit the courthouse and have the order quashed if you feel you acted rashly.
“What happens if I violate my protective order under a civil case?”
If you’re the applicant, nothing, though you’ll compromise your credibility in any further legal actions that may arise. If you’re the recipient of the order, you’ll be subject to arrest.
“What happens if my sister used my phone to text a girl who had a restraining order against me?”
The police may come knocking. Consult an attorney (usually free) and see what s/he advises. Or have your sister call the girl and fess up.
“What happens if someone has a restraining order against you, and they pass by your house?”
Unless the restraining order plaintiff trespassed (and was caught at it), nothing. Any number of visitors to this blog report that they’re phoned, emailed, or texted by the people who swore out restraining orders against them. Many report, besides, that these people show up at their homes or work. At least one respondent to the blog reports being not only stalked but assaulted.
“What happens if [the] accused party does not show up in court for [a] restraining order?”
Unless the hearing is postponed, the defendant will lose his or her opportunity to defend.
“What happens if the victim falsely accused the person of violating a protective order?”
See above: What happens if my sister used my phone to text a girl who had a restraining order against me?”
“What happens when a temporary restraining order does not become final?”
A temporary order must be served within a specified period of time (contingent on state law), or it expires and becomes null. This doesn’t prohibit the petitioner from reapplying and initiating the process all over again, however. It doesn’t necessarily mean the temporary order has no lasting consequences, either. In Massachusetts, for example, even to have been accused of domestic violence on an application for a temporary order that was approved by a judge means the defendant’s name is entered into a domestic violence registry (indefinitely). The only reasons an order wouldn’t be finalized are (1) it was never served on the defendant, (2) the court found for the defendant in an appeals hearing and dismissed the case, or (3) the plaintiff defaulted by not appearing for a scheduled follow-up hearing, and the order was vacated.
“What happens when I’m sued for a false protection order?”
Justice, hopefully. If you feel repentant, see if the person suing you would agree to drop the complaint if you cooperated in clearing his or her record and made amends. Obviously, getting an attorney would be a good idea. If the protection order is still in effect, you can voluntarily have it vacated at the courthouse. If it has expired, you and your victim can cooperatively have the order vacated by having an attorney file a nunc pro tunc motion (sort of a legal reset).
“What happens when someone lies to obtain a restraining order?”
Too often he or she succeeds. Apply for an appeals hearing, and get an attorney. Do whatever it takes.
“What happens when someone tries to fight a protection order?”
Often they’re driven to the conclusion that resistance is futile. If the grounds for the restraining order are false, however, my opinion is resist anyway.
“What if I change my mind about a protection order?”
You may return to the courthouse and ask (file a motion) to have it vacated (canceled).
“What if no one is home when police try to serve a restraining order?”
Typically a notice will be left for the defendant requesting that s/he call to arrange for service.
“What if you don’t answer the door to receive a temporary restraining order?”
It’s possible that a warrant will be issued for your arrest (consult the notice left by the officer), and avoidance of service will just prompt the law to get more creative. You don’t want a constable serving you at work. My advice is accept the inevitable, and appeal the order in court—ideally with an attorney by your side.
“What is it called when someone gets a restraining order against you but doesn’t need it?”
That would depend on the circumstances. The prosecution may just be “frivolous” (that is, without sound or urgent justification, for example, “He’s always rude to me!”). Or it might constitute abuse of process/malicious prosecution if the applicant’s intent in obtaining a restraining order was different from what s/he claimed it was. Restraining orders may be sought out of spite or vengeance, for example.
“What is it called when you can’t afford to sue someone?”
That’s called screwed. If you mean when you sue without an attorney (that is, when you represent yourself in a lawsuit), the answer is pro se. Where an attorney’s name would appear on your document captions, you would write instead “(Your name), pro se.” Pro se is Latin for “on one’s own behalf.”
“What is the charge for making up false police reports in order to send someone to jail…?”
This is called false reporting. In my state, it’s a misdemeanor crime with a two-year statute of limitation.
“What is the due process for a restraining order…?”
Due process doesn’t apply to restraining orders. You’re guilty unless proven innocent. Restraining orders are issued ex parte, that is, based solely on the testimony of your accuser. You may appeal, but if you don’t, the court doesn’t care.
“[What is] the penalty for lying on a restraining order?”
Zippo.
“What is third-party communication in a restraining order?”
“Third-party communication” refers to communication with the plaintiff in a restraining order case through another person (that is, a person not involved). An example of “third-party communication” would be the defendant’s asking a mutual friend or family member to convey a message to the plaintiff (whom the defendant is forbidden to communicate with directly). If the court has ordered “no third-party communication,” this means the use of a go-between is likewise forbidden. In other words, a restraining order defendant who is enjoined not to communicate with the plaintiff via a third party cannot ask another person to speak to the restraining order plaintiff on his or her behalf. The only authorized communication would then be through an attorney or through the courts pursuant to a legal action, such as a lawsuit.
“What is the typical punishment for lying to get a protection order…?”
Success.
“What legal actions can I take if a neighbor has a restraining order against me but is using it as a weapon by calling the police [and] putting in false reports?”
The least demanding countermeasure would be your applying for a restraining order against your neighbor alleging harassment. If you consult your state’s harassment statute (Google your state + harassment laws), you’re likely to find that it recognizes the filing of false allegations with authorities to constitute harassment. Harassment, in turn, is grounds for procurement of a restraining order. Convincing the court that false allegations are abusive is always a challenge, because its tendency is to discount the effects of lies and to acknowledge laws selectively or preferentially. So you’d have to be insistent and persuasive. Your state, furthermore, may disallow so-called “cross-petitions” or “mutual orders.” See this post. Although you may not be able to piggyback your application on your accuser’s case, it’s possible to obtain an order against your accuser by filing a separate application (that is, by opening a separate case). You could also file a lawsuit, but this is a major undertaking and very taxing. It’s also best accomplished with an attorney’s representation and so can be very expensive. A final alternative would be to move. (The passive approach, hiring an attorney to send a menacing letter, could work, but such a letter is basically toothless. If the addressee blows it off, you might be out a couple of thousand dollars, and you’d be left with tolerating the abuse or pursuing one of the options enumerated above.)
“What reason do I need to file a restraining order on my wife?”
Some jurisdictions would require you to allege you fear her (that is, that she poses a threat to your person or your children). In others, it may be sufficient to allege, for example, that your wife is terrorizing you and/or your children (that is, subjecting you to psychological abuse). Violent behavior, tantrums, threats—all of these might be valid grounds.
“What recourse do you have against false statements on a restraining order?”
Appeal immediately. Instructions or a hearing date will be included with the restraining order you were served. Obtain the counsel of an attorney at all costs. Also consult this post for orientation. The odds are against the defendant in this process—guilty or innocent. The presence of an attorney can at least negate the handicap and level the playing field. If your appeal fails (or succeeds), you might also consider litigating toward a settlement (or for damages). If you decide to sue, do it right away. The statutes of limitation for some torts you may wish to allege are brief (e.g., one year for defamation). You may have court documents delivered or served on the plaintiff of a restraining order even if the injunction is in effect.
“What to do if you are wrongly accused of assault, and a lawsuit is filed?”
If you’ve been served with a lawsuit, retain the services of an attorney. Do whatever you have to do. An attorney may be able to arrest the suit before it can proceed. And protect your assets against whatever may come. You can also countersue, either through an attorney or by representing yourself (pro se). See this post for instructions.
“What to do if [you] think someone might file a restraining order [against you]?”
The wisest course would probably be to sever contact with that person and let things settle. After a few months of no contact, the grounds for that person’s seeking a restraining order will have lost their urgency. If you’re dealing with someone who’s unreasonable or who’s out to get you (or who will be even angrier if you ignore him/her), then you’d do well to prepare for the inevitable and begin planning your defense. In any case, this is a person you’d do well to shun. See also:
“What are the Warning Signs of an Impending False Allegation?”
“The Fake Fight – What’s She Doing?”
“What to do when a judge denies you the right to defend yourself against an injunction?”
The best course would be to consult with an attorney. If you applied for an appeals hearing on time, it’s unlawful for the court to deny you the opportunity to contest allegations made against you. Appeal your case to the Superior Court and report the misconduct of the lower court judge to your state’s Commission on Judicial Conduct.
“What to do when someone continuously accuses you of harassment and abuse?”
Consult with an attorney (consultations are usually free), and see what you can do to get this person off your back. Sometimes a well-phrased letter under an attorney’s letterhead can work magic.
“[What to do] when the person who gets the restraining order keeps calling the person they got it on…?”
You may be able to persuade the person to quash the restraining order. He or she can do this at the courthouse. It just takes a signature. To protect yourself, make the invitation through a third party, preferably an attorney. DO NOT call or otherwise initiate contact with the restraining order applicant. This will make you subject to arrest. Alternatively, you could always apply for a mutual no-contact order and explain to the judge what’s going on.
“What type of person does a sociopathic narcissist target?”
Ones he or she perceives to be manipulable and tolerant of abuse.
“What was the legislative intent of having the petitioner sign under oath in a civil TRO…?”
The intent was to dissuade petitioners from making false allegations—to make liars think twice, in other words. Having petitioners sign under oath is a purely rhetorical gesture, though. Statutes making perjury a felony crime are paper tigers. Frauds and liars are never prosecuted.
“What’s the purpose of a fake restraining order?”
There are many. Here are some: to spitefully subject the defendant to public humiliation and/or to ruin him or her personally or professionally (petty revenge), to gain custody of children or possession of property from a domestic partner, to terminate an illicit relationship (or gag an extramarital friend or lover so s/he feels intimidated and can’t speak to your spouse), to lame or discredit a romantic or business rival (exes’ new spouses or love interests are popular targets), to gain power or leverage over someone (stalkers have obtained restraining orders against their victims), or simply to get attention. False criminal allegations are difficult to substantiate, usually require you to give testimony before a jury, and can backfire if you get caught making them and possibly land you in jail. By contrast, the burden of proof on a civil restraining order petitioner is minimal to none (“I’m afraid!” sometimes suffices), the inconvenience is minor (a few minutes with a judge in a closed chamber), and perjury—if it’s detected at all—is generally winked at and never prosecuted. See also this page.
“When can you sue for malicious prosecution over a restraining order?”
The sooner the better. A restraining order is not an obstacle to your pursuing legal action against the plaintiff. Because some torts you may wish to allege have a brief statute of limitation (one year for defamation, for example), you want to act promptly. If you litigate on your own behalf, remember to observe the constraints placed upon you by the restraining order. You may mail your complaint and summons to the plaintiff after you’ve filed with the court, but don’t make this an occasion for sending any form of personal message (you may also have these documents served by a process server or local law officer). Once you’ve obtained confirmation that these documents have been received by the plaintiff, your communications (briefs) will be addressed to the court (though you’ll mail copies to the defendant or his/her attorney).
“When does the trial begin in a restraining order matter?”
The issuance of a restraining order is itself effectively a verdict (“guilty”). In some jurisdictions, if a restraining order recipient doesn’t explicitly request an appeals hearing, there’s no follow-up. Consult the order you were issued to see if a hearing date has been assigned or whether you have to request one by calling, writing, or visiting the courthouse. And don’t hesitate to request (file a motion for) a continuance if you need more time to prepare.
“When fighting a restraining order, can the accuser bring in a notarized statement [from] someone who knows about the case?”
Absolutely. It’s up to the judge whether s/he admits this exhibit into evidence, but there’d have to be a good reason for his or her refusing you. If you wanted to formalize this statement, you would find a template online for an affidavit to the court you’re defending in and type your witness’s statement onto it. Here’s a generic online example (for others, Google example witness affidavit). Then just accompany the witness to see a notary public. The services of a notary at a bank you have an account at are typically free. There’s nothing to this. A notary won’t swear anyone in or scrutinize credentials. S/he’ll smile, ask for a driver’s license, sign and date the form you hand him or her and apply his or her stamp. Ten minutes tops. The notary is unlikely to even read the form you hand him or her, so make sure s/he puts his or her name and signature in the right places.
“When going to court for a restraining order, don’t both people have to be there?”
Yes. I’ve heard of restraining order defendants accused of violating restraining orders being represented by attorneys and not appearing in court themselves, but in a restraining order appeal, a judge will want to see a defendant for him- or herself, and defendants have the constitutional right to face their accusers, the satisfaction of which expectations necessitates the presence of both parties at a hearing (though either or both may be accompanied by legal counsel). Sometimes allegers of domestic violence may be excused from hearings, which is unfair but probably rationalized as sparing the “victim” further trauma.
“Who can call on a person who has a criminal restraining [order] against them?”
Anybody. An injunction restricts the actions of its recipient (defendant). It doesn’t restrict anyone else’s actions.
“Whose record does a restraining order go on?”
Both the plaintiff’s and defendant’s names will be linked to a restraining order record (which may not be accessible to the general public). The person whose record will be affected by a restraining order is the defendant; the defendant bears the stigma.
“Why can’t the accused get a copy of the application for a protective order?”
You should have been served a copy. If you mean the plaintiff’s affidavit, this is part of the game. If you persistently apply at the courthouse—don’t take no for an answer—the records clerk should agree to give you a copy with some information redacted (like the applicant’s address). If this doesn’t work, an attorney can obtain the affidavit for you, which is essential to your defense.
“Why can’t the person with the order of protection get in trouble for contacting you?” / “Why doesn’t a restraining order affect the plaintiff?”
The legitimacy of the restraining order process is faith-based. Just as a church congregation agrees to collectively hold a certain set of beliefs to be true so does the legal system agree to perceive restraining order applicants as honest, earnest, and “for real.” It’s not that religious people can’t detect contradictions between everyday life and church doctrine, and it’s not that judges, for example, don’t know that restraining order petitioners lie; it’s that uncertainties aren’t openly acknowledged, because that would call the validity of the whole system into question. So the party line is that defendants (the “bad guys”) are the ones who need to be restrained from contacting plaintiffs (the “victims”). Remember that lawmakers (who have no exposure to how their laws are implemented—or how they’re abused) are the ones who make the rules. Police officers and judges simply follow and enforce those rules. They may know better than legislators what really goes down, but their discretion is limited, and they have a vested interest (job security) in maintaining the status quo. Put simply, restraining orders don’t affect their plaintiffs, because why would plaintiffs (wink, wink) have any motive to harass, intimidate, stalk, or persecute defendants?
“Why did my spouse appeal a protective order?”
More than likely because s/he didn’t want the label of abusive wife/husband on his/her public record. Would you?
“Why do sociopaths file restraining orders?”
Sociopaths (or psychopaths—these terms are used interchangeably, and the distinction isn’t hard and fast) are social eels, sliding along through the currents of life. A defining trait of people with antisocial or narcissistic personality disorder is a disregard (even contempt) for the feelings of others. What conscience sociopaths may have remains arrested at a preadolescent stage. They look out for number one and see other people as objects (tools), not subjects. Glib lying being second nature to them, sociopaths can easily obtain restraining orders, which are unparalleled tools of manipulation, exploitation, intimidation, and revenge.
“When does an order of protection expire?”
The typical duration of a restraining order is one calendar year, but durations can vary. A restraining order may even be permanent (“non-expiring”). Consult the order you were issued. And don’t hesitate to call or go to the courthouse that issued the order and ask the clerk or a judge to clarify its limitations. A justice of the peace (JP) is as much your JP as s/he is the restraining order plaintiff’s.
“Why would a husband want a wife to drop a restraining order?” / “Why would a man contest a protective order against him?”
List the reasons why a wife would want a husband to drop a restraining order or why a woman wouldn’t want a restraining order on her public record, and you’ll have your answer.
“Why would a narcissist put a restraining order on you?”
To be hurtful and to have all eyes focused on him or her. Narcissists exult in exercising power over others, and they have pathological urges for attention and vengeance. See also this page and this post (also this one). Here are some short essays on the subject of narcissistic malice by Dr. Linda Martinez-Lewi:
“Narcissistic Vengeance Has No Boundaries”
“Narcissists Hold Deep Grudges” (dead link)
“Narcissists—Don’t Expect Formal Justice or Punishment”
“Malicious Narcissists—Convincing Others You Are at Fault or Crazy”
“Sociopathic Narcissists—Relentlessly Cruel”
“Narcissistic Relationship Cycle: Use, Abuse, Dispose”
“Narcissist’s Cycles of Revenge” (dead link)
“Why would a policeman take statements from witnesses if a person was not pressing charges. What if I do not want to press charges?”
The police and judges have been trained to react “heroically” when they perceive that a woman has been abused. If you don’t want to press charges, refuse. And don’t sign anything. Also, consult with an attorney (usually free), because once this process is initiated, it can carom out of control.
“Will a prosecutor file criminal charges if a petitioner dismisses a civil protective order?”
I can’t imagine what grounds would exist for prosecuting you for withdrawing a protection order you petitioned, no. If the restraining order was based on false allegations (that is, if you committed perjury), don’t offer that fact as your explanation for requesting/moving that it be vacated (dismissed). Even if you were to cop to making false allegations, however, it’s unlikely that you’d be prosecuted.
“Will I get arrested for not showing up to court for [a] restraining order injunction?”
That probably depends on whether you’ve been ordered to appear or whether you’ve simply been provided with an opportunity to defend. Don’t hesitate to inquire with the courthouse or to request more time to prepare if you need it.
“Will I go to jail for a restraining order against me from a minor?”
Irrespective of the age of the plaintiff on the order, if you violate the order’s prohibitions (for example, by approaching the plaintiff), and the police are notified, you may be arrested, yes. Police detention doesn’t necessarily follow from the issuance of a restraining order, though. Receiving a restraining order, in other words, doesn’t by itself mean you face incarceration. It just means you’re “on notice” for the period the order remains in effect.
“Will looking at someone’s Facebook [page] violate a protective order?”
No, not unless this act has been forbidden by the court. And I don’t see why it would be. Consult the order you were issued by the court to see what limits have been imposed on your activities. Communication via Facebook most likely is forbidden.
“Will police arrest me for violating an injunction against harassment…?”
Yes. Don’t.
“Will the defendant be notified if the petitioner cancels a protection order before the hearing?”
Possibly, but I wouldn’t count on it.
“Will the judge let me get my stuff from the house if I have a restraining order?”
Typically, no. You leave with the shirt on your back and nothing else. Check your state’s statutes, though, by Googling restraining order statutes + your state. Your state’s laws may allow you to return to your residence to pick up some essentials in the company of a police officer.
“Will the person know I filed a restraining order on them if it was denied?”
In some jurisdictions, at least, the defendant is informed, yes.
“With a [protection order], what is the distance a person has to stay away?”
Consult the order you were issued. If you’re still uncertain, don’t hesitate to inquire at the courthouse.
“With a restraining order, can I keep the defendant on my Facebook?”
Sure. And why wouldn’t you want to?
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I was talked into getting a restraining order against my son’s father for domestic violence.
There has been a couple mild incidents where I had smacked him during an argument and he would push me away. Never happened around our son.
I feel like I lied on the restraining order. I’m not scared of him at all.
I have contacted him a few times and we’ve talked.
I live in Oregon and was told (by the people that talked me into the RO) that I can go to jail for it, and I can have my son taken away. CPS is already involved because of an incident that landed my son’s father in the hospital. It didn’t directly involve me or my son, only emotionally and mentally.
I’m unsure what to do. I was told because of the situation, I will not be able to get the order removed. I feel it’s unnecessary.
Can I get in trouble for lying on the restraining order? The recent incident had been so fresh in my mind, and with people telling me what I had to do, I had it done without really thinking about it.
I’m also told that I will get arrested and lose my son if I contact him myself, even if he doesn’t report it himself.
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First thing, don’t beat yourself up about this, because everything about this process is coercive. Everyone from friends to women’s advocates to police officers may goad women to apply for restraining orders. People I’ve talked with report feeling shamed, guilted, or intimidated into doing what they’re told. (Some women are even threatened with consequences like you’ve described—CPS interference—if they don’t comply. It’s awful.)
Second thing—and this is very important—you’re not in trouble for communicating with your son’s dad, per se, because you’re not under an order of the court yourself, but he could be held in contempt of court or subject to a related charge for communicating with you, which is a violation of the court’s injunction against him. So indicating to anyone in authority that you’ve initiated contact with the restraining order defendant and that he’s responded is dicey (as is telling anyone). Communication’s being consensual doesn’t authorize it in the eyes of the law. So take care what you let on.
Counsel and assistance from an attorney who hears you and whom you have confidence in is always the safest and surest way to remedy any legal snarl. If this is financially prohibitive, though, it’s possible for you, as the plaintiff, to move the court to vacate/dismiss the order: “ORS 107.720(2) authorizes the court to terminate a Family Abuse Prevention Act Restraining Order upon the request of the Petitioner.”
Packet: “Family Abuse Prevention Act (FAPA) Forms”
Specific form: “Petitioner’s Motion and Affidavit for Dismissal and Order”
I’m not an attorney, and I can’t predict how any given judge will act, but “perjury” (lying to the court) is almost never prosecuted, and a judge can’t spearhead a prosecution even if s/he wanted to. The district attorney would have to single you out (and act in spite of the interests of your boyfriend). Furthermore, unless you gave testimony or evidence that was obviously fraudulent, the chances of making a criminal case against you are beyond remote. If you’re saying that you alleged you were afraid when in fact you weren’t, I wouldn’t sweat this. Again, I’m not an attorney, and I eagerly recommend that anyone who can consult with one should, but my strong suspicion is an attorney would wave away your concerns.
If you consult the motion to dismiss form above, you’ll see all that’s required of you is that you make a statement that you might or might not have to defend in person to a judge.
Reporting to a judge that you don’t feel the restraining order is necessary and places an undue strain on the father of your son would seem to be sufficient—and true, right? You’ve thought better of it. I don’t think you should say you “lied,” which probably isn’t accurate anyway. It sounds more like you feel you exaggerated or acted impulsively (“I had it done without really thinking about it”). If it’s accurate to say you feel you were coerced (manipulated, urged) into applying for a restraining order, that would displace the blame altogether. You got swept up. An attorney, even in a brief phone consultation, could probably advise you on what to say to allay any fears you have. S/he could probably also tell you if you had any reason to be concerned about interference from CPS. S/he might tell you an emotional appeal is better, I don’t know: “I feel like I acted in haste and regret taking this step.”
Based on what you’ve said, the involvement of CPS is puzzling, anyhow.
Just take your time and craft your statement carefully would be my thought. It could be we’re tiptoeing around something unnecessarily, but I totally understand your caution and concerns. State machines are scary. (Even the language in letters from court clerks is rude and harsh. I’d love to hear it suggested that some of the federal subsidies courts receive be devoted to politeness training. Seriously.)
Something it does sound like it would be a good idea to factor in is whether you think the people who’ve been warning you of dire consequences would report a violation of the order to the police (possibly thinking they’re looking out for you or possibly feeling you’ve betrayed them by not listening). Are they associates of yours who know you’ve spoken to the order’s defendant? I can’t say whether this would be a cause for concern if the order were vacated, but that’s something else you could run past an attorney.
Also, you might be wise to cut these people out of the loop and keep your investigations and whatever you decide to do to yourself.
It’s probably unnecessary to tell you, but unless/until a judge approves a motion to dismiss a restraining order, it remains in effect, and its prohibitions must be observed. Don’t do anything differently, in other words, until you’re holding a signed, authorized document that says the order has been vacated (dismissed).
My lay feeling is that if you feel the order is unjust and does nothing but place a painful burden on you, your boyfriend, and your son, then it’s only reasonable for you to seek relief from it. This word, relief, is one the court recognizes and one you could even consider using in your affidavit to the court (your statement). You feel sick about it, right? The point of orders of the court is to relieve that feeling, not cause it.
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Answer to a related question from an attorney in Massachusetts:
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We, my husband and I, filed a tpo against someone after they issued a written threat.
He filed a tpo against us based on lies and we can prove he lied.
I filed a police report claiming he used the court and the sheriff to harass me by filing a top against me.
We were talked into keeping mutual protective orders by an attorney.
Once we had signed she told me the DA was looking at my police report and that if the adverse party gets arrested it just makes them madder. I think he may have gotten in trouble if we had fought the tpo.
This is a small town and we know our attorney screwed us but there isn’t really anything we can do about that.
We are worried this can ruin my husbands career because he routinely needs clearance from the ATF.
We are in Nevada and I found a form for a “motion to modify, dissolve,…..a protective order” we are moving out of Nevada in a month.
Do you think it would be possible for me to fill this out and request a hearing to get the order dissolved since it is based on lies and we are leaving anyways? If so should I represent myself or use the same lawyer who screwed me the first time?
There are not a whole lot of lawyers around here and my adverse party is friends with two very well established lawyers here.
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Reply at length soon.
You might check with this office to find out what remedies you have at this stage:
“Attorney for Respondent in Nevada Order of Protection Hearings”
This is the form you have?:
“Motion for Dissolution Of Order For Protection“
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If you plan to the leave the state, anyhow, what about talking with one of the lawyer friends of this guy and seeing about getting the guy to cooperate in making this go away? If all parties to the order are amenable to its vacation, I don’t think there’d be an obstacle. Maybe have your lawyer call his? To apply for a new hearing otherwise, you’d probably have to have grounds like new information, new evidence, or the like. Your attorney could tell you if there’s another way, but the fact is the court doesn’t care about lying.
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FYI:
“Motion to Vacate Judgment/Order: Civil Rule 60“
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Hello! This is my first comment here so I just
wanted to give a quick shout out and tell you I really enjoy reading through your blog
posts. Can you suggest any other blogs/websites/forums that deal with the same subjects?
Thank you!
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can your brother file something against you saying that if you come to your mothers house you will be taken to court?
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Possibly. If, for example, your brother lived with your mother, he could file a restraining order against you that prohibited you from nearing him or his place of residence (Mom’s house).
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Hi – I posted somewhere on this forum and cannot find that post, I apologize for this being disjointed as a result. My 17 YO Daughter has filed an Ex Parte Protective Order against me. I traveled to the state she resides and goes to school in within the last week to attend the hearing, and an agreement was reached with no actual hearing taking place. I hold a Security Clearance, which is essential to my work, and agreeing to extend the temporary order for a few months, after which time (if there are no violations on my part) it will be dismissed, seemed the least risky thing for me to do…in addition, my Attorney advised me that this “deal” would also eliminate her ability to introduce any additional false allegations to this particular temporary order. For clarity, I did check this out with the Facility Security Officer at my employer (there is a self-reporting requirement for potentially adverse information for anyone who holds a Security Clearance), and he agreed that this was the prudent thing to do, as even a seemingly “iron-clad” case that is heard before a Judge is not a guarantee of dismissal…there is some risk involved. The “deal” agreed to eliminated, at least in the short term, that risk. My question is this…when the temporary order is dismissed, is my record also expunged? I’ve read some of the things written on this blog about having records expunged, however it appears that all of these were “permanent” orders that had been dismissed or vacated…are a person’s records affected the same ways when the protective order is “merely” temporary?
Thanks!!
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Your adviser is right: no guarantee of dismissal. Avoiding the possibility of a ruling’s undoing life as you know it is smart, and I’m glad and relieved to hear you found a workaround. Your question’s a good one. Was a complaint filed with the PD? You see how easily records can accrue when someone starts pointing a finger, and every one of these is a tripwire.
I’d imagine that because the police must be notified even of a temporary order, there’s a good chance that traces could linger that you’ll want to make sure are rubbed out. Expungement should necessarily accompany the vacation of a ruling but this reportedly isn’t always the case. The mere traces sometimes cost people jobs. Check with your attorney would be my advice, because sensitivity to the impact of “adverse information” may vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction.
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Thanks for the prompt response…I saw a couple of “techniques” on your pages that I might try, one being to try to see if a Gun/Weapon dealer would be willing to run a check on me…I also would not be shy about calling the local County Sherriff’s office and just ask them. My Attorney (in same State as Daughter, I live in a different State) says there is no need to worry about any record of this, but I am not convinced.
At any rate, thanks for your advice. Once this is over, I will gladly share a more detailed accounting of this saga, in the hopes that it may assist someone else.
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I would just go talk to a cop, yeah. They’re often decent people. Congratulations again. It sounds like you’re going to get this sorted so you can move past it. And absolutely do share whatever you’d be comfortable with down the road. I hope your relationship with your daughter isn’t affected.
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Unfortunately, it appears that someone has persuaded her to lie, and file this Temporary Protective Order, and all of my kids appear to be involved. At the “hearing” (as noted above, no hearing was held, we arrived at an agreement), she was there, along with her older Sister whispering in her ear the entire time, her Attorney (Legal Aid), and someone I didn’t recognize but suspect was a counselor from the school she is attending. Neither of my Daughters would look at or speak to me, nor would I attempt any sort of contact with them. It is prudent, at this time and at least until the Temporary Order is dismissed this coming Fall, for me to have no contact with my kids. Yes, this hurts, so whomever is advising them to do this has “won”, if that was their goal…however, these are not little children…they are young Adults and near-young Adults, and are either over the age or fast approaching the age of majority, and emancipation. They are making up their own minds, at this point. My Wife (not their Mother, whom I suspect rather strongly is involved as well) is my FIRST PRIORITY, and I will not, ever again, allow ANYONE to expose her to such hurt and betrayal. If any of these ungrateful kids ever need anything, they know how to contact me, however until the Temporary Order is dismissed, I literally cannot afford to respond to them.
Once the temporary order is dismissed, I definitely will share my experience with others on this blog…as you may imagine, I have some rather pointed things to say about the school as well.
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I meant to say again that I’m truly sorry about all this. I know how gnawing treachery can be. It seems inexplicable, but when legal procedures are initiated, they create a momentum and moral vacuum that makes everyone obey, even against their own normal impulses. I’m reminded of a short story by Shirley Jackson called, “The Lottery.” It’s about a rite that requires nominated members of a social group to be ritually stoned to death at certain intervals and examines how people will act against their own ethical principles to appease “the group” (the dominant power). When law is invoked, no matter how unjustly, people tend to go along. It’s primal. Because they’re on the side of the prosecution, they feel they’re on the “right” or “righteous” side (and they avert their eyes from the “sacrifice”). Too, they tend not to perceive the ripples (like the effect this has had on your wife) at all. It’s amazing, desolating, horrific, and totally in keeping with pack/herd behavior. There’s another principle I’ve noted, too. It’s not nice to observe, but females (more so than males) seem to be guided by “solidarity” in things legal. They’re more malleable/manipulable. Whether false accusers are male or female, the “negative advocates” they enlist are often female. Put charitably, you could say girls and women may be more readily swayed toward sympathy with and loyalty to the parties they’re listening to. It’s one of the things that make them wonderful…when they’re on your side. You’re wise to bide your time—also to be forgiving of the girls, at least, if they later reconsider their roles in all of this. These processes are frightening (intentionally), advocates are persuasive, and being a kid (even if semi-grown-up) is a vulnerable status to occupy. I live with a great deal of rage, but objectivity is deeply engrained in me, and the impartial observer in me recognizes that the people who “go along” really don’t perceive the degree of harm they abet, which can of course be lethal. Best wishes, and share anything you feel comfortable sharing anytime. Tell your wife I think she’s a trouper and that it’s a blessing you had her to lean on through this.
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Thank you, Moderator. I find myself questioning my own personal fortitude…my “manhood”, if you will, based on the effect this is having. I find it extremely hard to stay engaged at work, and I am alarmed at this. I have spent more time at home using sick leave for ailments (like a sore back, digestive problems, a persistent hacking cough) over the past couple of months than I have in the past couple of years, and I have to believe this is related to the “elephant in the room” which is this situation. Up until now, I considered myself a decently strong man, physically and emotionally…I am finding out differently.
I do struggle with keeping “the door” open to these kids…and it is EARLY in the process!! I fear what my mental and emotional state might be like if/when they decide to change their points of view and reach out to me…will I even be open to recognizing their overtures? These kids are bastards by choice right now, true, but will I be able to accept them if they decide they want or need their Father again? I honestly don’t know.
Oh well…one thing at a time…for now, the “one thing” is to watch…like a HAWK…the figurative sword they have dangled over my head by a thread.
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About the third year I was going through this, I exhibited the same symptoms and went to several doctors for the first time in 15 years. Terrible insomnia, too, which is still chronic. And my back teeth are so worn down, I’d horrify a dentist. The first year, my hair starting fading in patches.
It’s not a reflection on your manhood; it means you have a soul.
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My son was served with an ex parte restraining order-as part of it the maternal grandmother received temporary custody. The petition was dismissed by the judge-and the grandmother will not return the child. My son is the undisputed natural father-and the mother is court ordered to a mental institution. How does my son get his son back? We assumed the dismissal of the petition would be enough.
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If you’re sure the grandmother’s custody entitlement was dissolved with the dismissal of the order, Deb, I think you could go to the police precinct and ask an officer to help your son collect his boy. An officer’s presence, though it could shake up the child, would defuse the situation and make the transition “official.” Just be sure no one’s acting in violation of any court mandate. Obviously if you have or know an attorney, getting his or her advice couldn’t hurt. I’d only say take care that no situation arises that creates the opportunity for the grandmother to say she “felt threatened,” etc.—or you could find yourself going through the same thing all over again. A police officer’s help (you could probably even ask for a female officer) might be good insurance against this.
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We called The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children–and we did make a report of a possible kidnapping. We told them local law enforcement will not respond to our pleas for help. The case number is 1232345 (the call was recorded). We also called the State Clearing House-to report that we had a possible kidnapping and that local law enforcement would not respond-(they documented the calls). We also called the Denver branch of the FBI–they spoke to me and then transferred me to the Lander field office-where I left a message-I was told an agent would call back Monday. We called the Highway Patrol-at the suggestion of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children-(as evidenced in the recording). I spoke to a supervisor named XXXXX-she also told me that local law enforcement was obligated to at least come and take a report. I explained that they would not–at that point we had made 13 calls to law enforcement-and not one would come to xxxx home and look at the piece of paper signed by the judge. xxxx stated she would call Big Horn County herself–when I called back to see what she was able to learn–she stated that she had called the Big Horn County Sheriff’s Office-the deputy told her the reason they were not coming to XXXXX house is because the situation was being handled by the local police department–which is a lie because the local police department told us they were advic=sed not to get involved. XXXXX documented all of her calls.
We also called The Polly Klaas Foundation-and they want us to call Child Kind of America on Monday.
I have no doubt that law enforcement is aiding them simply because of the family-they have been in this area for 100 years–they have money-influence-stature—all things that my family does not have. I just don’t understand how this can happen. I would think that law enforcement is currently aiding and abetting–or conspiring to commit kidnapping.
XXXX called the Sherriff’s Department again today requesting that he be allowed to talk to an officer in person about possible kidnapping charges—the deputy responded–“sir I will only tell you the instructions on our computers-it says we are not to assist you in any way with removing your son from XXXX XXXX. It says if the child is suspected to be in any physical danger at xxxx residence, deputy’s can remove him and place him in the custody of DFS.
We do not know what else to do. His attorneys are astonished. They have left numerous messages for law enforcement-and no one will return their calls.
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The child is 17 months old.
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Wow, Deb. Who would even believe this stuff goes on?
You know a big part of the evil exerted by restraining orders is false impression. Once people hear the phrase restraining order and phrases start being entered into police databases like physical danger, brains shut down. The phenomenon would make a great study for psychologists, linguists, and other social scientists. People can literally be turned stupid with a few magic words.
I was contacted a few months ago by a couple whose child was taken by the court and handed to the mom’s ex-boyfriend, who told a judge he was the boy’s father. To get the state to legally hand him someone else’s child, it just took a few minutes with a dozy judge. The man probably wasn’t a violent danger to the child, but for all the court cared he could have been a pedophile. He took the boy to spite his mom.
It feels wrong idly talking about something urgent like this, but the only thing I can think for you to do is try to correct perceptions. If the order was dismissed, it might help to file a motion with the court to expunge the record from police databases so that there are no phrases like physical danger to make officers’ brains shut off.
You might also consider applying for a restraining order against the grandmother alleging kidnapping. I wouldn’t go into extreme detail like you have here. Just explain the situation to a judge.
I’m saying “you,” but I guess it’s your son who would do this. I’m not an attorney; I’m just suggesting you consider this, because it’ll get you before a judge immediately. Cops apparently couldn’t care less (and may fairly believe they’re protecting the child’s welfare by not helping you). Cops will care if a judge tells them to.
You have to change perception.
I would start there. Can’t the attorneys do anything, incidentally?
If the courts and police continue to disregard you, call local news outlets (both print and TV media).
Consider carefully, though, how you explain what you’ve been through and how you’ve tried to remedy it so you don’t sound crazy. Say things like, “We’re at our wit’s end” or “We’ve exhausted every possible avenue.”
It’s all about how things look and sound.
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The boy wants to go home? This may or may not be important.
Basically, what I think your son would report to a police officer is that someone has his child who’s not that child’s legal guardian and who won’t return that child.
It’s not okay to keep other people’s kids.
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My wife left our house three weeks ago. She left with another man and has since moved in with him. She left me with our 4 children and her daughter to whom I have no legal obligation or parental privileges. She is now threatening to file an ex-parte restraining order several days from now with the sole intention of removing me from the home. She is claiming that she is fearful of me for her own sake but excluding the children from the order. How can this be allowed? She left of her own accord three weeks ago and is now maliciously trying to remove me from my home. If she left THREE weeks ago how can a court be persuaded that there is imminent danger?
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Family/divorce attorneys understand these tactics best and know how best to respond. Even if you don’t think you could afford to pay an attorney, call a few. Brief phone consultations are free, and sometimes you can get straight through.
Here’s some commentary by a New Jersey attorney I read the other day that might help answer your question about why these games are tolerated by the system:
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My wife just filed a protective order on me yesterday preventing me from being within 300 feet of her, or my three stepchildren. or my house. I have bipolar disorder and do have manic episodes at times when provoked so I cant say she filed fraudulently but she did it to be malicious and spiteful not out of fear. She then immediately after filed divorce papers on me and is presumably moving out soon or so the restraining order states….”so she can get her and her daughters possessions from the residence”.
I purchased the house before we were together, and my car she currently has possession of was purchased by me before we were together… neither of them have her named attached to them in any way. The order states no 3rd party contact. I don’t think she understands the ramifications this can have on my future being on my record, but I cant have anyone contact her to inform her how detrimental will be for me. I think if she knew and I was willing to stay away and let her take what is rightfully hers she might be willing to drop the order in a day or two….but I cant do anything because I am in limbo at the moment….still in shock to be honest…
I also worry about her moving and taking my belongings with her, stuff I purchased before we were together …while I cannot be anywhere near the house to prevent her from doing so. Is there anyway I can legally keep her from removing my items from the property?
Any advice would be great. Thanks in advance
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The best countermeasure, Eli, if it’s within your means, would be to hire an attorney. And you’d want to start calling around immediately. An attorney could help you defend yourself, and it might be possible to counter-file an injunction or file liens prohibiting your wife from making off with your stuff. The typical scenario as I’ve seen it played out is that the petitioner of the restraining order pretty much eclipses the defendant—everything that was the defendant’s becomes the plaintiff’s. Some people are left living out of their cars or are forced into homelessness.
If you haven’t already had an appearance date assigned to you, that is, if you have to apply to the court for the opportunity to appeal, you should do that, also (check the order you were issued). Defense against false allegations, which may only have to be skewed or exaggerated representations of real circumstances, is hard under the best of conditions. If you have a verified mood disorder that you’re in treatment for, besides, you may have a tough row to hoe. Testimony from your physician (in person or in the form of a letter or affidavit) might be helpful, but most helpful would be enlisting an attorney. If community property is essentially your property, consulting with a family/divorce attorney would probably be wisest. A divorce attorney might be able to place liens on that property and prevent its being taken or sold without your consent. A divorce attorney, also, may not require that you come up with a great deal of money up front, because s/he’ll understand the bind you’re in. The misuse of restraining orders by spouses instituting divorce proceedings is common, and divorce attorneys are well aware of how this game is played.
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My son recently moved to Fl. His daughter is in CT. Previously my son has taken his ex girlfriend to court for full custody due to suspected abuse and/or neglect. Custody was denied. Two weeks ago I called DCF in CT because she had 3 head injuries in a month. Also, my son has been texting her everyday to discuss visitation during the summer. She keeps telling him that they will discuss it but she never calls when she promises. He just found out online that an ex parte was granted against him 3 days after DCF was called. Also, she has not allowed any contact with his daughter. They have joint physical and legal custody. Can calling DCF and texting her be considered a pattern of threatening in the state of CT? He has not been served with papers and the hearing is in 7 days. He is 1,500 miles away. Also, he has taken my granddaughter out of state on a regular basis before moving to FL. Is getting a certified letter considered being served? We haven’t received to date any correspondence.
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I would expect a local cop to serve the order. Bureaucracy is slow, and protocols are going to be different everywhere. I’ve corresponded with one man who had a restraining order petitioned against him by a woman in a different country.
Your suspicion that the restraining order may be motivated by the call to child services is probably right. If your son’s girlfriend is acting out of spite, what your son has or hasn’t actually done doesn’t matter; she could have said anything. Stay in motion, though, if you think a restraining order is coming. Getting the DCF records would be a good idea, along with medical records if available. If representation would be within your means, start calling some Connecticut attorneys and see if you can find one you like who could represent your son or at least advise you guys. Googling restraining order + attorney + Connecticut might yield you some leads. An attorney could advise you on strategy and tell you how best to prepare.
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If there was a restraining order between Bob and Ann, put in place by Anns father against bob, could bob and Ann get in trouble after the restraining order expires if they admit to violating it? And could Anns father get in trouble since he lied his way into getting the restraining order?
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I’ve heard of this occurring, Chammi, yes. The fact is the “rules” in these cases are so largely subject to police and judicial discretion that there really is an “anything goes” aspect to decisions about them. In your scenario, “Bob” (the defendant) is the one who could get in trouble. “Ann’s” father can lie with impunity.
If you think there’s a risk of Ann’s father trying to have Bob arrested/punished for contempt of court, run your question past a local attorney before staging a public reunion would be my thought.
Also, it’s not for me to say, but you might want to consider the wisdom of admitting anything.
Take good care.
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I hhad a ppo against me it was a complete lie but I left it alone I stayed away from my x wife that had the ppo even my 2 kids I waited the 6 months it was expired I went a seen my kids I talk to my x wife I made arrangements to see the kids for a week or so it was fine then she got mad and called the police she had filed for a extention on the ppo that I thought was expired so I was arrested went to court and my lawyer didnt show the judge was mad and I was served the extension right in front of the judge basically I got served after being arrested will this be dropped or am I facing jail and fines?
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I’m sorry you’ve had to go through this, Roy. I’m puzzled why your attorney wouldn’t have let you know what you may be facing but not especially surprised. Or are you saying the lawyer didn’t even appear at the hearing? Even if that’s the case, I’m hardly shocked (did the attorney call to apologize, and has s/he still billed you for his or her services?). Everything about this process is derelict and improvisational.
It moves so fast that a lot of defendants are lucky to find attorneys who’ll represent them even if they know to try and can afford it. Respondents to “emergency restraining orders” are sometimes required to appear in court just days later. They’re railroaded through.
If the judge communicated (“served”) the extension while you were in court, it would seem that the judge acknowledged that you hadn’t been previously informed of it. If you weren’t under an injunction that you’d been properly served with at the time you’re alleged to have violated a court order, you shouldn’t be held accountable for the “violation.” In other words, you shouldn’t be sanctioned (punished) for violating an order you didn’t know you were supposed to obey. Shouldn’t be unfortunately isn’t the same thing as won’t be.
If you Google your state + restraining order laws, you should find a clause that says the defendant/respondent must be “served” within a certain period of time. I assume that you had the chance to challenge/controvert your ex-wife’s basis for applying for the extension? If you weren’t given the opportunity to respond to the new allegations, I think you should check with your attorney (or get a new one), and see if you can move the court to grant you a new hearing. If the attorney didn’t show, I’m sure you were caught totally off-guard. That must have been awful by itself. It may be grounds for applying for a new hearing, though.
If you are punished unjustly and can’t be reheard, you might consider appealing to a higher court. In my state, at least, restraining order appeals to the superior court are free, and they’re not a major deal like a lawsuit. The process (again, in my state, anyway) is set up so that defendants/respondents can appeal themselves. You would just file an Appellate Memorandum. Laws and procedures vary from state to state, of course, and it’s always best to enlist an attorney’s help. If you did this yourself, you’d want to familiarize yourself with the process (check at the courthouse), file the necessary paperwork to appeal, and find a model so you could see how to prepare your brief (superior court brief + your state). The caption (top part) is the only tricky part. It’s the part that identifies the case and the participants. In the body, you’d want to make it clear that you were never notified that the restraining order you thought was expired had been extended (cite the law and quote it). Even if you could get an attorney’s guidance, that would be worthwhile. You might be able to request that sanctions (monetary or otherwise) be dismissed and that the arrest record be sealed/expunged.
I’m not an attorney, understand. I’m just trying to provide you with some recourses to investigate that might be feasible or worthy of your consideration. When I did this years ago, I didn’t know what a “motion” was. You probably don’t, either. A motion is just a request that the court do something you ask of it. You can move the court to grant you more time (Motion for Continuance), move the court to waive some penalty (Motion to Dismiss), move the court to let you speak to a judge in person (Motion for Oral Argument), etc. Even if you’re able to get an attorney’s aid—and I hope you are—you could look these things up so you understand them. The foreignness of all things legal and the bewilderment people experience trying to hastily get up to speed is a big part of the reason why most just throw their hands up in despair.
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If both parties have restraining orders on eachother and have sex and conceived a child , what could happen to the child and both parties that still do not get along?
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What a mess. If the restraining orders are still in effect, I guess there could be serious ramifications, because it would mean both parties violated orders of the court. Consequences for contempt of court could be incarceration, which I suppose could mean the child would be collected by child protective services.
You should consider talking with a family attorney, Jen, who may be able to propose a way to either vacate (cancel) the restraining orders or at least protect the interests of the child, which wouldn’t be served if you guys were locked up.
If the orders have expired, talking with a family attorney would still be a good idea. You could iron out some form of custody agreement (or child support, maybe, if the father doesn’t want to be in the picture).
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if the person who puts the restraining order on you tries to contact what should you do are you able to talk to them
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Take a look at the order you were issued. Sometimes restraining orders don’t forbid all forms of communication. In my state, there are a series of tick boxes that let applicants indicate what forms of contact they’re okay with, if any. If the petitioner has indicated that no form of communication should be allowed, then even to respond to a communication from the petitioner is to violate the restraining order, be guilty of contempt of court, and risk arrest.
Cops and judges don’t have to answer to reason or commonsense in these matters. A judge could listen to you tell him that the plaintiff banged on your door, called you, texted, emailed, stood outside of your place of work, etc. and then say, “Mr. X, you knew that you were prohibited from communicating with the plaintiff,” and rule against you. The person who put the order on you isn’t prohibited by the court from doing anything.
Some petitioners intentionally bait defendants into violating court orders: “GOTCHA!” If you don’t think that that’s this person’s game, and “third-party contact” isn’t prohibited by the order you were issued, you could ask a mutual friend to test the waters. The person who petitioned the order can move the court to vacate (cancel) the order.
Safest would be to have an attorney communicate with the plaintiff. Just understand before you do anything that you’ve been prohibited from contact with the plaintiff on the order. It doesn’t matter what that person does. If you act in defiance of a court order, the responsibility falls on you as the defendant.
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It’s so crazy to read all the stories on here. I am a woman who has been the victim of restraining order abuse. When this nighmare started, i knew nothing about restraining orders and even though I was emotionally abused for over 6 years of our 15 year relationship, I never held him accountable because he was such a great “victim” he basically controlled me for many years by means of guilt that started on a small scale of making me feel I had wronged him to making me work to gain his affection thinking if i showed him how special he was all would fall into place eventually. I finally snapped out of the fog when he set me up one night to have me arrested for “attacking him” right after we had just bought our first home together. He was a delusional drug addict as I came to realize and only once did he apologize for that night and wrote me a card saying he knew he was wrong to have set me up. I stupidly forgave because I honestly loved the guy, didn’t have any close family or friends because he also had alienated me from my family by telling them I was the one on drugs. and I had no where else to live. I really thought he made a one time mistake and would never repeat such a thing again. Well, the trauma of what I went through that night never faded from my mind and I was always crying as I had never been arrested before, had a Masters Degree in Forensic Science and was in the processes of being hired with a police department. I sank so low into depression because I had come to believe no department would ever hire me with a arrest on my record. I still tried to forgive him and I guess he was such a coward that he quickly realized he didn’t want to see me the depressed, hollow shell I had become and instead of remorse, he realized just how easy it was to have me tossed out or arrested the first time and decoded he instead would do so again and be done with my pathetic self dragging him down. This went on for 4 years, I was alone in this battle and suffered PTSD and no one not family or friends could understand why I didn’t just get up and get a job to hire an attorney to solve this. I couldn’t barely get out of bed and when I did I started self medicating to numb my pain. I was arrested 2 more times just being in my home peacefully getting clothes after he said I could as I was tossed out and living in my car. One of those times he called me to come home and because I needed a roof over my head I did so and he again called the police. That was the last straw. It took me years of kissing his butt to convince him to drop his RO on me as I wanted no part of him or our home and I promised if he paid me back my down payment he could keep the house and would never hear from me again. Well, selfish narcissists never pay up just so u know. He lied numerous times about selling his car to pay me all while I slept a a friends sofa for a year. I couldn’t wait anymore and went to peacefully talk to him and ask for my money as I needed it to get a place to live and he now had a new girlfriend living in my home, wearing my clothes if you can believe there is such classless people out there. That was fine, he met his better half but he now didn’t want to pay me and told me to sue him for the money. Next day, I had a friend serve him civil court papers and long behold what does he do? As I predicted, he ran to court the very next day and claimed he was afraid of me and petitioned the court for another RO off the original 4 year old incident. I am shocked at how stupid our court system is. This guy has a record of seeking bogus RO’s so my response was to avoid him at all costs and he hasn’t been able to serve me. Since its been 6 months of no contact I was hoping he would get bored and drop it but he asks every month to continue the temporary RO cause he can’t serve me. It’s taken me 5 years to find strength and fight this animal with no money to my name. I spent the whole weekend documenting all his abuse. I also ordered the affidavit from court on what he alleged under penalty of perjury and of course it’s all lies which I can easily disprove. I am gonna surprise him and show up in court prepared this next hearing when he asks to continue the matter he is in for a shock. I am disgusted by him and our legal system. I am enraged that even if I disprove all his allegations, he won’t be prosecuted by the same system he had jail me. I urge anyone suffering this type of abuse of process to not ignore it hoping it will go away. It’s amazing how pathetic these type of people are. They supposedly claim they have moved on and you are harassing them yet, they spend more time in court filing paperwork for there bogus RO’s then they do enjoying the company of their new partner. It’s actually quite of a sad realization if you ask me, I feel sorry for someone who is so hollow inside they can only gain fulfillment through trying to hold power by any means over someone who never wants to see them again. This man and I were childhood sweethearts and were together for 16 years and only the last 5 did he start to exhibit signs of a sociopath narcissist. He is also a firefighter and I helped him as did my family get to that position and this is how he rewarded me. When these people get a taste of this secret weapon, they quickly detach emotionally from you as the only purpose you serve to them is that of a “punching bag”. Don’t ever think they learn from thier wrongs because they don’t they just learn to hide it when they get into a new relationship long enough to proove to the new person that its you who is crazy not them. I don’t know what is so appealing about hurting someone this way and at that a weaker and more helpless person. To me this is no different then people who abuse children and the elderly, its disgusting and more needs to be done to punish these people.
Today, I feel more powerful and in control of my life all because one good friend took me in and financially supported, encouraged, and helped me back up on my feet. I have been told by them they do not expect me to repay the money they have invested in me and all I can say to that comment is, when you have nothing and someone helps you this way, you should turn right back around and make it your priority to repay whether its expected or not because there are not many people who will do such a kind and caring thing and the fact my ex was willing to abuse me and do such awful things to me to be greedy and leave me without a dime makes me see clearly how unimportant money is in terms of being fulfilled. Its importance to me rather serves as a symbol of working hard to start fresh and share my bed of wealth with my supporters who helped me empower myself again. Charity is not a right, its a gift and whether its a person or a organization that helps you, please remember to always give back for the people who may need help recovering from past abuse.
Whats funny is i dont care to ever seek revenge, but I will protect my rights and quality of life and if needed seek justice as everyone who is treated unlawfully like a piece of disposable trash should My heart and prayers go out to all of you who suffer with this curse. Never give up the fight to protect your rights not for one day or 5 years always fight and through that I promise you, you will find the strength in you that was buried deep inside you and you thought you had lost long ago. I am the biggest believer and I pray for you all. Thank you so much for this site, I read it daily and you are a amazing person. I owe you a lot of thanks for the knowledge I gained through reading your advice.
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That word you’ve used, hollow, is spot on, Vina. I’m not a psychologist, but I’d hazard a guess that this man is a borderline personality. Narcissists, borderlines, and antisocials (sociopaths) are variations on a discordant theme. Borderlines are said to lack a solid self-identify; narcissists are said to desperately need attention and external affirmation. They’re hollow, like you say. And the boundaries between these disorders aren’t perfectly distinct.
The blaming and blame-shifting, continual rekindling of conflict, drug use, lying, manipulation, isolation, paranoia, smear tactics (misrepresenting you to others), utter disregard for your feelings, etc. are all classic traits of someone with a high-conflict personality disorder (one stemming from sociopathy).
I’m not comfortable venturing too far into psychoanalysis, because I’m out of my depth, but it’s in adulthood that the traits of personality disorders are said to manifest, so the change you’re talking about probably synchs up with the diagnosis.
I can identify with all of your torments, with your sinking into despondency, with having the brightness of your ambitions turn to ash, and with the outrage you feel at having the person who aggressed against you claim to be your victim. Also, of course, with your feelings toward the people who are paid handsomely to ferret out the truth and protect people but who may instead abet abuse.
The courts are the enablers, and they’re at least as indifferent to the wreckage made of people’s lives as the sociopaths who set the machinery in motion.
I’m really glad to hear you’ve been able to pick up the pieces and find a glimmer of promise on the horizon. It takes an exceptional person to do that. I’m glad, too, if something I’ve said has helped.
I hope you can get your career plans back on the rails. Forensic science sounds cool! Maybe you can turn this ordeal to professional advantage. It seems like there’s a field called forensic psychology, also. FYI.
Stay strong, Vina.
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Jesus, this sounds a lot like the crap I just went through. All the mental abuse, lying, constantly needing validation and then when he got it, acting like I was lying to “bitter him up”. And in the end, the horrendous things he called me..insane stalking ignorant foul mouthed unreasonable hateful rude inconsiderate manipulating liar…and that’s a direct quote. Absolute nutcase!!
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does a domestic PPO automatically press charges?
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Does a Domestic PPO automatically press charges on you or could that person do it seperately also?
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No, protection orders don’t (technically) hold you accountable for any alleged trespass; they just place restrictions on you. They can be issued by a criminal judge in connection with a criminal trial, but orders themselves are just orders. Someone claiming “domestic violence” could file a complaint with the police, but this doesn’t always happen. If an order is violated, then there are criminal consequences.
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If I caught my wife cheating and filed for divorce and she countered that with a restraining order just to take a u-haul to our house and take belongings that did not belong to her and then she runs to a different state with my kids what can I do?
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That’s a hard hypothetical to negotiate. If you mean this literally happened, I guess it would depend on whether the restraining order was made “permanent” by a judge and whether your wife was granted full custody of the kids. It sounds like a case you should involve a family/divorce attorney in. I mean, under other circumstances, one parent’s running away with the kids could be grounds for an Amber alert. But with the things these court orders authorize people to do and get away with, all bets are off.
A few months ago, a man wrote to report that one of his kids was given to his wife’s ex-boyfriend by order of the court because the ex falsely claimed on a restraining order to be the boy’s dad. Authorities took the boy out of school and handed him to this guy.
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Thank you for you insight.The court date is next week to decide everything like custody and such but my lawyer has stated that the judge will have likely sided with her regarding the kids beforehand. I’m just baffled that the judge doesn’t even want to allow me a chance to fight for my kids all because my soon to be ex wife is a good actor.
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Good luck. I hope the lawyer is really investing his or her all in defending your interests and doesn’t have any qualms about observing to the court that a prejudgment is not an informed decision, that this decision stands to profoundly affect your life (and your kids’ lives), and that it’s been acknowledged by officers of the court (lawyers but even some retired judges) that divorcing partners routinely lie and exploit restraining orders to dominate custody battles. One retired judge guessed this happened in one case in three (33% of the time). Others put abuse of legal process to gain custody leverage at 40 to 50% (or higher). This is most effectively done by alleging domestic abuse.
See, for instance, attorney Terri Weiss’s candid remarks:
From Bedroom to Courtroom
“The Lousiest Family Court Order” (Huffington Post)
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If I have a protection order against my neighbor, can he be video taping me? The protection order is for stalking/Harassment
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I assume you’re talking about from his residence? Probably even in that case, no.
This is an interesting case out of England of the same sort of conduct by a disturbed neighbor:
“Woman handed restraining order after campaign of harassment against neighbour sparked by parking row in which she filmed her every move”
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yes from his residence now, but intially was with his phone standing in front of me as I got out of our car, now he mounted one at his front window and one on the back window where I walk my dog. I was thinking that was still stalking and harassing?
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I suppose he could argue the cameras are for security, but the timing of their installation is curious. Also, if the front camera is aimed at your house, I’d say you had grounds for complaint. You’d just want to think, I guess, about whether you want to report him. Probably he would be warned instead of arrested, but who knows.
So this was never on the sly at all? Is he looking for attention, or is he just not right?
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My question is, I live in a trailer park where a special needs school bus speeds through every day. I have almost been hit by this bus and an outdoor pet has been run over and killed, can I get a restraining order to prevent this person from driving by my house?
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Hi, Angel.
My first reaction is that someone who can tear around a neighborhood, kill a local pet, and then return to the same neighborhood and drive the same way without any remorse isn’t someone who should be driving a school bus, let alone a school bus for kids and young adults with special needs. You might consider calling, explaining your concerns and what you’ve witnessed to whoever’s in charge, and seeing about getting the driver fired. If the dog hit-and-run (a crime that’s taken very seriously in some places) was reported to the police, you could mention that. Also of course that you were almost hit. You could get your neighbors to back you up. Or, if there’s someone who manages the trailer park, you could ask him or her to call on behalf of the residents. Emphasize that the driver’s conduct endangers kids.
If you have the opportunity, catch the person on video when s/he’s next speeding by. Also, get the bus’s ID number and license plate number.
My guess is a judge would want more to go on to issue a restraining order. You would probably have to establish, for example, that you expressed your concerns, but they were ignored or that the driver was going out of his or her way to scare you. The owner of the dog that was killed might have better grounds, especially if the hit-and-run was witnessed. There’s nothing to stop you from applying for a restraining order, but probably a judge would need to see something in the way of intent on the driver’s part to harass or threaten you beyond just generally reckless driving.
Alternatively, you could file a complaint with the police. If I were you, though, I’d start with informing the driver’s employer(s) and/or the person who manages the trailer park. Unless the dog hit-and-run was witnessed, there’s probably no realizing justice for the family of the dog, but if you can get the driver removed, the problem will be ended—and the next driver will have it impressed upon him or her that s/he needs to drive safely.
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so my ex contacted me… she filed a RO and CPO on me… she said she wanted to work things out with me… like a dummy a responded.. turns out that was a trick. she said if idont work things out with her that she is going to call the cops. she directly threaten me. i have written proof of this. do i have any options? or do have to just play her game until the RO is up
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Keep evidence of everything, Brandon: records of phone calls, emails, texts, or whatever. Police may discount a complaint you took to them or even blame you for being snookered. It’s even possible they’d arrest you. But you could apply for a restraining order yourself against your ex at the courthouse. Some states don’t allow “mutual” restraining orders (also called cross- or counter-orders), which means it’s possible you couldn’t piggyback your restraining order on the same case number.
See your state’s statutes here.
You’d probably have to file a separate case, alleging harassment (distress, etc.). This may also provide you with grounds to move the court to dismiss the orders against you if a judge acknowledges that they’re being used as instruments of coercion (blackmail). Clearly if the woman were actually afraid of you, she wouldn’t be contacting you. If you can afford to get an attorney involved, that would be ideal. Otherwise, I’d start at the courthouse.
WARNING: I don’t think a judge would hold it against you that you were tricked into responding (judges don’t arrest people), but if you’re concerned, call and run the scenario past an attorney (or five attorneys). A few-minute phone call isn’t something you’ll be charged for. I don’t want to encourage you to take a step that might put you at risk. The thing is, if this woman is determined, you’re at risk anyway, because a manipulator may have no qualms about making up a story for the police. It sounds like she’s determined to squeeze you.
If you do apply for a restraining order, emphasize that you’re being contacted and threatened, not that you were tricked into responding. Show the evidence that supports your claim rather than evidence that shows you inadvertently violated the court’s order (which you may be able to omit). If you get resistance, ask what it is you’re supposed to do when the court has left you completely vulnerable to these sorts of games by someone who plainly has motives other than the ones she identified to the court. You’re concerned she’ll set you up or falsely report that you violated the court’s order out of spite. Stress that you feel constantly anxious and report any effects this has had on your mental state, ability to work, ability to sleep, etc.
Restraining orders are supposed to be instruments of protection, not instruments of abuse.
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like 2 know how husband Got one cause my lawyer last time he Got one on me it was lies lawyer said he would need real proof he dont actually he broke my hand Sun and was Goin
2 turn in at hhospital but my ride never came so i called next day and cop talked me into not doin i wasnt home w hen he (cops ) tryed 2 serve me and cop also told me u just cant pay and Get easy so do they serve on weekends?
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It’s possible, I guess, someone could serve you on a weekend (cop not constable, probably).
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Can a parish, who owns its church building and grounds, issue a restraining order against verbally abusive priests who have threatened the congregation with their own legal action (defamation) because the parish feels they are wrong theologically, much less interpersonally? Recently, our former pastor retired and this action sort of opened the door for not one, but two, nearby priests (who are a little higher up the “political” ladder in the diocese) to come in and essentially bully us about everything we are doing. Letters were written to the bishop about the priests’ behavior, but nothing has been done and the priests are becoming increasingly hostile. Note that our parish is the second most wealthy in the whole diocese and the largest in our immediate area. We have many older parishioners, many of whom have become physically ill and have refused to return to our church until these priests leave. Even a few of the young families have stayed away as of late and don’t feel that our church is no longer a good environment for their kids. This is a very unfortunate situation. We don’t want to quit – we love our faith, traditions, and family. Going to another church of the same rite will only put off the problem as others are under the same influence by these guys. Can you provide some insight?
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How bizarre—and awful. My grandmother, who lived into her nineties, never missed a mass in her life and would have been crushed by any cause to be disappointed in the Church. It was pretty much the axle of her life.
A restraining order is typically petitioned by an individual to arrest misconduct toward him or her by another individual (that’s the pretense, anyway). Using an analogous context, you couldn’t—I don’t think—get a restraining order against the proprietor of a business for treating you badly when you voluntarily entered his business. You could, however, get a restraining order against someone who repeatedly came into your business and harassed or threatened you.
I would expect a judge to say that if you don’t like the service, you should go elsewhere. What grounds you might have for some kind of legal prosecution would probably depend on what form the verbal abuse took. Religion, including for the reasons you name, is a complicated case, because people feel compelled by loyalty and faith not “to quit.”
The proper channel would seem to be Church administration. Maybe a group delegation’s appealing to the bishop in person?
Basically you want these guys out, right? Who knows, an attorney might be able to propose a legal remedy if the parish’s ownership of the grounds authorizes its collective members to choose whom they allow to live on those grounds and/or officiate in the services held there. The grounds, that is, may be considered “private property.”
Going back to the analogy I used in the first paragraph, it might depend on whether the Church has authority or whether, as the property owners, the members of the parish have authority and whether the priests are viewed as “running the shop” or whether they’re “customers” whom you have the right to expel.
You could call and run this past some attorneys, Matt. What the heck. Maybe some Jewish ones?
The rub is, though, that you’re still going to want actual Church-ordained priests to minister to the parish, which probably makes trying to work things out through Church channels the wiser (if less satisfying) course.
Alternatively, you could stage a walkout or picket and call a local news station.
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I was in a relationship for almost a year with someone who had some deep seeded trust issues, low self esteem, and perhaps an undiagnosed mental disorder or two. Without the aforementioned this man had a wonderful soul, he unfortunately was very broken. In the beginning, I will admit I was not perfect and I have always believed it was the lack of communication and misconstruing what the relationship was in his eyes. I had taken blame and apologized continuously through our relationship even though it was in the past, he unfortunately could never let it go. Promises made by him time and time again to put it behind us and move forward together were broken continuously until 6 months into it when he threatened to kill himself and got his family and friends involved. He blamed me of course when I wasn’t even in the state. However, another cry for help and I remained by his side. He again made promises from that point forward to seek counseling and failed to do so. Our relationship needed help and I suggested therapy for us hoping then he would go. No. After months of noticing things he would say that were in complete reference to what friends of mine would say privately and showing up places he was never told by me or anyone else for that matter and my job when we were broken up, I started to think because of his education and career he did something like gps. I started to realize, ok how would he know my conversations and who I was talking to on the phone throughout the day that he had put something on my cell phone. I am not that computer savy and even had the cellular store professionals try to retrieve it and shut it off and they could not. I had notified some friends of what I thought was going on and they began to text me things that should not be said to anyone in a relationship and if said the person receiving them should instruct them to stop and I did not. This, thinking he was reading all my texts when he was nowhere near, infuriated him to a point where he finally admitted it to me. He admitted to doing this once before back at the 4-5 month mark but stated whatever it was he was doing and I of course believed him. He at this point had forwarded me messages that I only received, we do not share the same cell phone plan by the way, and he even in fact sent me texts of the gps coordinates he had on me a night that I went out with friends. I continued to try and work things through, because without all the craziness I truly loved this man with all my heart, and begged for him to get counseling it only got worse. He claimed he again stopped the program he admitted to having on my phone but then two days later he showed up where I was out at and did not inform him of banging on the door. I foolishly tried to appease him but when I woke up the next morning and we argued and I asked to take his cellphone he said to take it and when I left I showed up at my residence to him threatening me he was calling the cops. I never had the chance to try and find it on his phone and remove it as he the police there in 10 minutes. My children were home and were terrified I was getting arrested. I returned the phone to the police immediately and informed him of why I did what I did. Then it made me wonder what exactly does he have on that phone of his. The cops informed me that if he was stalking me and had a tracking device on my phone that I should file a restraining order. All I ever wanted to do was help him get better and filing the restraining order made me feel awful. I know I did it for my children and myself because I shouldn’t have to live my looking over my shoulder as I have for the majority of my relationship with him, some of my friends would not even text me anymore. I have a part of me that says it could potentionally get more volatile but I have been second guessing it because I do not want to damage him anymore than he was when he came to me a year ago. I feel bad and always try to help[ lost souls. I have court in the morning and have no idea what I am walking into and do not know what my options are at this point.
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Hi, Lauren. I’m not a psychologist, but it sounds like you’re describing a man with borderline personality disorder. If you read about this on the web, you may encounter the statement that BPD is more typically seen in women. It’s also said then men more often manifest the traits of narcissistic personality disorder. I’m not sure what the bases for these gender remarks are, and I question their correctness (as I believe a psychologist would).
Chronic blaming is a defining tendency of all of the “Cluster B” personality disorders. See this post. Because of this tendency (vehement blaming), these “high-conflict,” personality-disordered people are often either recipients of restraining orders or their applicants. The irony is that the same behaviors that may urge someone to have a personality-disordered individual restrained by court injunction also urge personality-disordered people to get restraining orders against others, because they’re marvelous tools for deflecting blame from themselves and exerting it on others.
You may have dodged a bullet by acting first.
Here are the DSM-IV criteria for BPD (these aren’t the most up-to-date, but they’re straightforward):
Mediator Duncan McLean characterizes the borderline personality this way:
“Borderline personalities tend to view themselves, others and the world in the following ways: ‘I don’t know who I am,’ ‘He/she is great…no they’re not,’ ‘Life must go my way or I won’t be able to tolerate it.’ The interpersonal characterization of Borderline personalit[ies] is their paradoxical inclination to fluctuate between idealization and devaluation of other people. They hate criticism [and] rejection, and quickly get dysthymic or depressed following the slightest of stressors. They are terrified of abandonment, and relatively simple things such as other people forgetting to return phone calls can cause considerable anxiety.
“Their thinking style tends to be inflexible, which leads to rigid abstractions of other people. This in turn leads to particular problems in communication as they have a tendency toward ‘splitting,’ which is the inability to synthesize contradictory qualities in people, so that others are seen as good or bad but rarely in between. [T]heir dichotomous thinking and inclination to think and evaluate experiences in mutually exclusive categories is the basis of self-destructive behaviors and erratic emotions. The practitioner should look out for loyalty and scapegoating, inclusion and rejection, collusion and sabotage.”
That’s the disorder. Mr. McLean also notes these positive traits that probably resonate with your good impressions of your ex-boyfriend:
Something I haven’t written about but intend to is an observation I’ve read repeatedly, and that’s that empathic people are often targeted by high-conflict people. Or draw them, if you prefer. I bring this up, because it sounds like you are an empathic person (“I continued to try to work things out”), and that’s why you feel conflicted.
There’s a psychologist named Tara Palmatier, who consults by Skype, who could talk to and advise you about what to do going forward and let you know what to expect.
Also know that you can (probably) have the restraining order vacated (voided) before it expires if you choose. That’s not meant as a recommendation but as information that you may not be aware of. Someone like Dr. Palmatier would much better be able to assess whether this man poses a physical threat to you or if he’ s more likely to hurt himself and whether the restraining order is useful or a possible trigger for escalation.
For what it’s worth to you, my impression is that you have nothing to recriminate yourself for. People like this are toxic to normal minds and especially to minds that are hypersensitive to the feelings of others, like I suspect yours is. Sensitive minds are especially vulnerable to their manipulations (which aren’t necessarily deliberate—they’re part of the disorder). This thing’s reaching a head may have been a good thing for you, because it broke the cycle. It’s likely your compassionate desire to help would otherwise have kept you hooked into a relationship with someone who can’t be cured with kindness.
If you find yourself waffling in your resolve, I tell you this with all confidence: You could very easily have found yourself in the opposing role. Not only could this man have sought a restraining order against you following the dictates of his will to blame; he might well have lied in extremely hurtful ways to obtain it. And the probability of his second-guessing himself and feeling bad afterward about what he did to you is zero.
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Thank you for the response. I recognized all the that and did my research once I started to see a pattern. I am not a psychologist either but I am a nurse. However, I diagnosed him myself with BPD with abandonment issues shortly into our relationship. Everyone leaves this poor guy and I did my best to stay. Like I said, I loved him very much and tried to get him to get help but he refused which constantly hurt me because I could see it all. I haven’t heard from him since I filed for the TRO which then confirmed what I believed because that broke a pattern for him and made me think he still has the tracker on my phone. I went yesterday morning for the hearing for the FRO and was hoping he wasn’t going to show up. I had two friends with me as witnesses to the events of his stalking me. He showed up with his mother, father, and sister (the sister was giddy and happy and cracking jokes), which was embarrassing because I truly loved them and if the role was reversed I wouldn’t bring my family, Especially when they hear all of the events to which their son/brother is a stalker. I really don’t want them to hear that. I probably wouldn’t even tell them. He then asked for an adjournment. Besides the fact that he possesses firearms and he doesn’t want to lose, what would be the reason for asking for an adjournment to get an attorney? There really isn’t anything to fight here. The fact that he has had a restraining order or two already, shouldn’t that stand for something. Can’t the courts advise him or make him get counseling?
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You’re at least the third nurse I’ve been in correspondence with, Lauren, who’s gone through something like this, and I don’t believe that’s coincidental. I once spent five days in ICU—I was run down in the road by a guy in a 4 x 4—and my appreciation for nurses is without bound. They’re patient, compassionate, and giving people, and the personality-disordered have antennae that quiver when they recognize people like this—which isn’t to say that your feelings weren’t reciprocated; I’m sure they were. It’s just that how someone like your ex-boyfriend perceives the world is hopelessly marred.
The irony is that pathological fear of abandonment (paranoia) is assuredly the reason why borderlines are abandoned. The fears of people with personality disorders seem to be self-fulfilling prophecies. It’s heart-wrenching, and it was good of you to hang in there for this person.
From what I understand of the cognitive structure of people like this, you’re now “the enemy” in his mind, which perceives others in high contrast: they’re either white or black.
So-called high-conflict people like this don’t capitulate; they amp the drama. I’ve been in a similar situation and wondered at the absence of shame from someone I thought I knew. There really is a kind of Jekyll-and-Hyde dichotomy to people like this. The person you thought you knew disappears completely.
Expect anything—and nothing that you think you’re entitled to expect (like respect or recognition either of shared experiences or generosity and compassion you’ve shown in the past, which likely won’t be acknowledged). False allegations to self-justify and shift blame are typical of people like this and can be extreme. The person who was smiling at you enticingly or laughing with you not long ago may look at you with stony-faced malice tomorrow and claim anything his or her disturbed mind suggests would be a winning ploy. Very possibly, you’ll be represented as the stalker.
Family and friends—contrary to all reason and evidence—will tend to side with their own. They may even harass you. When the situation is reversed, that is, when the personality-disordered person is the restraining order applicant, this is often the case. Outsiders are even brought in on the fun, and they need less coaxing than you’d imagine.
As reluctant as you may be to involve others, you may want to consider bringing in some allies, too. If this man has already had others petition restraining orders against him, his credibility is probably shot, but restraining order adjudications are so fast-and-loose that nothing is dependable, least of all a reasoned and deliberate ruling. If the judge is female, for instance, and he has a smooth tongue, who knows.
One of the nurses I told you I’d corresponded with applied for a restraining order against a short-term, violent boyfriend (who may also have been a borderline), was refused based on some fantastical and very vicious lying and ended up with a restraining order against her, obtained for payback and also based on fantastical lying. She was ravaged. I don’t mean to worry you, only to impress upon you that it happens. The upshot was that the nurse had to change jobs and seek therapy herself.
The tolls exacted by people like this are incredible.
To the best of my knowledge (which is limited), no, counseling would only be prescribed in a family court case. You could consult an attorney by phone, though. There’s no cost for this. The information you’d receive in a brief call would be scant, but you might get a lead. You might even find an attorney who knows what borderline personality disorder is. The personality-disordered are rarely diagnosed, though, so establishing that your ex-boyfriend needed counseling would be rough.
The trial judge isn’t going to know you or him, and hearings for restraining orders are typically very short (minutes, not hours). It’s possible, I suppose, if you could establish a history of mental disturbance that a judge might mandate some kind of remedial treatment, but, again, an attorney would be the person to ask, and moving the court to mandate counseling (if this is even possible) would probably require you to obtain an attorney’s representation—which would be a good idea, anyway, if it’s within your means. An attorney could turn up this guy’s skeletons, which might clinch your case.
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On borderline personality disorder and its tolls:
“BPD Distortion Campaigns”
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Check out this tutorial, Lauren:
“How to Get Someone Committed to a Mental Hospital”
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Thank you. I didn’t think I would be able to get him on anything after poking around on the web. It just seems so wrong that a tpo can be used in this way with impunity. I’ll take your suggestion and just hope that karma catches up with him in the end.
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“So wrong” is right.
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Someone threatened me in writing and I obtained a tpo. He then lied to get a tpo against me. The Sherrif told me that if I stood in my front yard for too long they would (not could) arrest me and put me in jail for 12 hours. I can prove he lied. He even states the he “recently through court documents” learned he had been falsely accused which is the tpo I filed on him. He accuses me of having my 12 year old daughter harrass him.
I believe he used the courts and the sheriff to do exactly what my restraining order prohibits him to do.
Is it possible for me to have him arrested for violating the tpo?
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If I’m understanding you correctly, you’ve had conflict with a neighbor, who threatened you, which inspired you to apply for a restraining order, and the neighbor did the same thing as payback.
Again if I’m understanding you correctly, your allegation is that your neighbor lied about you in order to harass and injure you by getting a TPO, which is what the TPO you petitioned was supposed to prohibit him from doing.
If that’s what you mean, you’re totally right, but the courts don’t necessarily recognize false allegations as extreme as assault or rape as grounds for arrest or prosecution. Use (which includes ab-use) of legal procedure is seldom recognized as harassment, so the chances of having your neighbor arrested for harassing you by lying and abusing legal process are probably zero.
If he broke your window, the police would come. Apparently if he lingered in his yard, the police would come. If he falsely says on public record that you’ve repeatedly exposed yourself to him, that you’ve stared through his windows at night, that you’ve offered to sell him narcotics, that you’ve aimed a gun at him, or anything else he wants, no one will do anything about it or even see that the allegations are expunged. Allegations on a restraining order may be consulted, for example, by your employer, by the principal at your daughter’s school, or by a social worker, anytime. Lying, which I mean to emphasize can seriously and permanently damage someone’s life, isn’t even recognized by the system as harmful.
False allegations of stalking, sexual harassment, physical assault, sexual assault, physical or sexual assault on a child, etc., are made through the restraining order process every day—and erode people’s sanity or trash their lives…every day.
Instead of escalating things, if I were you, I’d think about talking to a lawyer down the road about brokering a peace and getting these restraining orders vacated and expunged (erased or sealed), which usually isn’t a problem if all parties involved consent.
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