DISCLAIMER: This page, which attempts to answer frequently asked questions (FAQ), is intended as a resource to those bewildered by the restraining order process and offered because attorneys rarely dispense information or counsel freely that they could bill for. The replies below are those of this blog’s author, whose knowledge of restraining orders and restraining order abuses is grudging and unqualified by any formal education in the law. I’m a writer, not an attorney. If in doubt, consult a licensed professional.
If you are the defendant in a restraining order case (that is, if you are the recipient of a restraining order), especially one based on false/fraudulent allegations:
- Read the court’s order front to back so that you understand its restrictions and expectations to the letter. Be able to quote it from memory.
- Immediately apply to the court for an appeals hearing if you haven’t already been assigned one. This will provide you with an opportunity to contest the restraining order applicant’s allegations and have the order quashed (that is, negated, nullified, canceled). You can do this by mail, by phone, or by visiting the courthouse.
- File a motion for continuance with the court to request a postponement of your appeals hearing to provide you with additional time to find and consult with an attorney (if within your means), gather evidence (which may include affidavits from witnesses), and prepare your defense. This is just a matter of going to the courthouse, explaining to the clerk what you’re after, and filling in a few lines on a form. You may even be able to do this by phone. Have your case number handy. The worst that can happen is that your motion is denied.
- Request a copy of the restraining order applicant’s affidavit to the court. This is his or her written narrative explaining why s/he “needs” a restraining order. If you’re assertive, a clerk at the courthouse should provide you with a copy with some information redacted (crossed out), such as the applicant’s address. Knowing what the plaintiff has alleged against you is both your constitutional right and essential to your defense.
- Exploit any and all available resources to obtain the services of a qualified attorney, that is, an attorney both experienced with representing restraining order defendants and one you feel confident will represent your interests without reservation. Call around. Having an attorney speak on your behalf is your best bet of arresting a biased process that stands to exert a very detrimental influence on your future. Some respondents to this blog have reported paying thousands to attorneys who they felt ultimately sided with the restraining order applicant. So choose an attorney you feel certain will have your back. A lawyer is no different from anyone else you employ to do a job for you: get one you have faith in.
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“A judge contacted my job and is trying to get me fired. [What to do?]”
A judge’s contacting your employer is way out of line. You can report this misbehavior to the police, apply for a restraining order against the judge for harassment, and/or report his or her actions to your state’s judicial oversight commission. If the judge succeeded in costing you your job, you would also have grounds to sue him/her for damages. The system protects its own, so you would have to substantiate (document/prove) your case very thoroughly. Your best avenue of recourse (if it’s financially feasible) would be to hire an attorney.
“A person filed a restraining order, which a judge denied. Now the person is telling everyone they have a gun to use against the other party. [What to do?]”
If the other party feels his or her life is in danger, s/he shouldn’t hesitate to report these threats to the police and/or apply to the court for a restraining order him- or herself (which can require that the person be prohibited from possessing firearms or ammunition). The other party can obtain affidavits (sworn statements) from witnesses to support his or her allegations to a judge. Bear in mind, however, that a restraining order is just a piece of paper. If this person is psychotic, the threatened party should consider a more certain deterrent like relocating.
“A police officer called and informed me of a PPO [protection order]. Is a phone call effective without personal service upon me?”
In some jurisdictions, astonishingly, this is satisfactory, yes.
“Am I a criminal if I have a restraining order?”
Though the court and others may well treat you like a criminal or make you feel like one, no. A restraining order is a civil misdemeanor.
“Am I breaking the law if I posted a comment on Facebook about my ex-girlfriend who got a restraining order against me…?”
Restraining orders are public record, so no. You would only have made yourself liable to police interference if your comment was threatening or to civil litigation if your comment was libelous—in other words, if you lied about your ex-girlfriend in a defamatory way. Truth is an absolute defense against allegations of libel or slander. Fact is fact. Opinion is also protected under the Constitution. Care should be taken, though, if you’re commenting on a restraining order that’s still in effect that you don’t make yourself vulnerable to allegations of harassment. A good rule of thumb is to imagine that everything you write will be read by a judge. A single comment isn’t harassment.
“Are charges filed against me public record?”
Yes. The plaintiff’s affidavit (written narrative to the court) is often concealed—even from the defendant; but the restraining order itself is publicly accessible, along with any allegations that appear on it (whether true or false).
“Are narcissists con artists?”
Yes, they’re consummate manipulators and frauds who don’t scruple about lying to realize their own ends, including to police officers and judges.
“Are no-contact orders public knowledge and if so where do you locate them?”
Records of restraining orders are public, yes. A courthouse website will usually have a database that you can search by name or case number. Note that restraining orders can issue from county or city courthouses. Note also that accessibility of restraining order records by Internet can vary state-to-state. (Here, for example, is the public index for Charleston County, South Carolina.)
“Are restraining orders being issued too freely?”
Yes, in all senses: they’re issued casually, and they cost their applicants little or nothing.
“Are restraining orders constitutional?”
There are certainly grounds for questioning their constitutionality. Provisions of the United States Constitution and state constitutions require that all citizens be given equal recognition under the law and that no group of citizens be shown special consideration, and preferential treatment both of women generally and plaintiffs specifically is not only prevalent but often mandated (for example, courts may be given grant monies in return for consenting to unquestioningly accept allegations of fear or violence from women as true). Restraining orders also deny recipients due process, a constitutional privilege guaranteed by the Fifth, Sixth, and Fourteenth Amendments. They furthermore enable the courts to criminally sanction defendants (imprison them) without first affording them their constitutional entitlement to a trial by a jury of their peers. And almost all if not all restraining orders are issued ex parte, which means defendants are deprived of liberty (and often property) prior to being heard by the court. Some defendants, in fact, are never heard. Restraining orders are issued against them without the court’s ever knowing anything about them but their names.
“Are restraining orders hard to beat?”
Yes, because they can be based on testimony that’s impossible to discredit, for example, an emotional state. An allegation of fear, which may be all a plaintiff needs to persuade a judge to approve a restraining order, can’t be disproved. The only defense is to discredit the plaintiff by convincingly showing there are no objective grounds for fear or that s/he has an ulterior motive for alleging it. As painful as it may be, no matter how strained your finances, securing the representation of an attorney is critical to balancing the scales and insuring you at least get a fair shake in a restraining order appeal. Since restraining orders are obtained ex parte—that is, based solely on the word of the plaintiff—the notion that the scales of justice are balanced to begin with is ridiculous.
“Are you notified if a person you have a restraining order against moves?”
No. Unless the person were for some reason required to inform authorities of a change of address, neither the police nor the court would even know, and a restraining order doesn’t prohibit a person from moving (except, perhaps, within the vicinity of the petitioner).
“Can a CPO be verbal, or does it have to be written?”
To the best of my knowledge, a criminal protection order would necessarily have to be in print so that its recipient were duly apprised of its prohibitions. Mere communication of an order would seem to be insufficient (unless it were directly communicated by a judge). Orders issuing from the court, even if they’re verbally pronounced by judges, are typically “written” and mailed to or served on the parties at whom they’re directed. That notwithstanding, if you believe you’ve been ordered by the court not to approach or contact another person, you should refrain accordingly.
“Can a defendant vacate an order of protection?”
A defendant can contest the preliminary/temporary order prior to its being finalized. Either a date will be scheduled automatically, or one will be assigned subsequent to the defendant’s applying to the court for the opportunity to defend. Protocols vary from state to state. In Arizona, for example, defendants must request hearings. Filing a motion like this one from Maine, “Defendant’s Motion to Dissolve Temporary Order for Protection,” may or may not be necessary. A defendant’s appearance in court to challenge a restraining order is essentially understood as a motion to the court to dismiss/vacate the preliminary judgment, but there’s no harm in a defendant’s filing a motion and/or pronouncing in court, “Defendant moves to have the plaintiff’s order dismissed, because its allegations are false [or “baseless,” “frivolous,” etc.].” Dismissed, vacated, dissolved, terminated, or a similar word will be used, depending on the jurisdiction, to mean canceled, “dropped,” or “tossed.” Grounds for moving to have an order vacated after it has been finalized might be that the defendant was never served with the preliminary order and summons or that the order was otherwise “void.” If this doesn’t apply, and a ruling to finalize a restraining order goes against a defendant, s/he may appeal the ruling to a higher court. These are the only ways to vacate a restraining order without its petitioner’s cooperation. With the petitioner’s cooperation and an attorney’s assistance, an expired restraining order may be vacated even years later by filing a nunc pro tunc motion with the court (nunc pro tunc means “now for then”). Exceptions like this option available in Colorado may exist in other states: “JDF 395 Instructions for Restrained Person to Modify/Dismiss PO R3-12.”
“Can a felon have a restraining order against somebody?”
Yes. See this post for an example case: “Restraining Orders and the First Amendment: A Female Blogger’s Successful Appeal of a Restraining Order That Labeled Her a ‘Cyber-Stalker’.”
“Can a future employer see if you have a restraining order?”
Yes, if s/he endeavors to find out. Restraining orders are public record. In some regions, moreover, restraining order registries have been established like those for sex offenders, making access by the public not only convenient but enticing.
“Can a governor remove a restraining order?”
A governor can pardon (or commute) a crime. To the best of my knowledge, a governor cannot vacate/expunge a restraining order, which represents a civil misdemeanor. If you learn otherwise, please let me know. You have nothing to lose, of course, by writing or calling the governor’s office and asking.
“Can a judge dismiss a cease-and-desist harassment order at a hearing?”
Yes, presuming the purpose of the hearing is to hear the defendant’s arguments for the order’s being quashed/vacated (voided).
“Can a judge give a restraining order keeping my child in the hands of strangers?”
If anecdotal reports to this blog are reliable, yes. One respondent reported that a judge awarded custody of his son to one of his wife’s former boyfriends, who falsely claimed to be the boy’s father. Another respondent, whose son’s baby was placed in the custody of his maternal grandmother, reported that the grandmother refused to return the baby after the restraining order was dismissed, and authorities refused to intervene.
“Can a lover sue on behalf of someone else?”
Possibly. If the other person were incapacitated, for example, or otherwise deemed unfit to represent him- or herself, or if the injury complained of to the court was one the lover also suffered from.
“Can a no-contact order get dropped without consent from the person [who] put it up?”
A defendant/respondent can appeal the order (through multiple tiers of the court system if s/he has the stamina and financial resource). If appeals have been exhausted, though, or the window to file has closed, the answer to the question is probably no. Some respondents to this blog have sued and had restraining orders vacated that way (either the judge rules to “drop” them, or the sued parties consent to cooperate in their vacation in out-of-court settlements). A plaintiff/petitioner (“the person who put it up”) can file a motion to dismiss (vacate, withdraw, dissolve, terminate) a restraining order while it’s in effect, or the plaintiff and defendant can cooperatively file a nunc pro tunc motion with the court through an attorney to vacate it after its expiration.
“Can a person be coerced to file a fraudulent restraining order?”
Definitely. Particularly abominable is when a person (woman) is coerced to file a false restraining order by a police officer or agent of Child Protective Services (CPS) or by a judge.
“Can a person who doesn’t own the house file a restraining order and make the person who owns the house move out?”
Yes. It’s a common motive among restraining order applicants.
“Can a person who lies about a restraining order be charged if they request to drop it?”
Not really, no. It’s remotely conceivable that if you were to confess to lying, you could be sanctioned by the court, but such a confession isn’t necessary to have an order dismissed. You would only have to offer—if you were questioned at all—that you felt you acted rashly and now regret it. The court just needs to be assured that you don’t feel the order is necessary and that you’re not seeking to withdraw it because you were threatened or otherwise feel coerced. You don’t have to implicate yourself as a “liar,” per se, to have an injunction “dropped.” You just need to return to the courthouse and file a “motion to dismiss” or “motion to vacate.” Approval isn’t guaranteed, but if the allegations weren’t extreme and children weren’t involved, there shouldn’t be a problem. If the allegations were extreme and/or children were involved, the court might require that your home situation be investigated before ruling. See also this post.
“Can a PFA [protection from abuse order] keep you from a public place such as a church function?”
If the plaintiff on the order is there, yes; the proscriptions of the order (among them keeping a distance from the plaintiff) apply everywhere. Although an order may not specify a “minimum distance” that the defendant must observe, it will require that the defendant “keep away” from the plaintiff.
“Can a plaintiff drop a temporary protective order lawsuit?”
Yes. Only a judge can modify or vacate (“drop”) an order of the court, but a plaintiff can move a judge to do so. Procedures will vary from state to state, because every state’s laws are different. This document “explains,” for example, how a restraining order is modified or vacated in California: “Do you want to change or cancel a restraining order?” This page by a New Jersey attorney underscores the complexities of undoing the effects of restraining orders alleging domestic violence: “Can a domestic violence restraining order be vacated or dismissed?” Here’s a basic eHow tutorial: “How to Rescind a Protective Order.” The National Center for State Courts provides links to court forms in all 50 states that can be used by self-represented litigants. Plaintiffs seeking to vacate restraining orders in some states (for example, Kentucky) may not find prepared forms and may have to make their own. This would probably best be done by looking at a different motion form from their state, using it as a template/model, and titling it, “Motion to Vacate [X kind of] Order.” See also these state-specific forms/tutorials (and this post):
“Request to Modify or Dissolve Protective Order” (Alaska)
“Motion to Set Aside/Vacate Judgment” (Arizona)
“Ex Parte Request and Order to Terminate Restraining Order” (California)
“Request to Vacate Restraining Order” (California)
“Protection Order Forms” (Colorado)
“Motion to Modify/Dismiss Temporary/Permanent Protection Order” (Colorado)
“Order Vacating Restraining Order” (Colorado)
“Injunctions and Restraining Orders in Connecticut“
“How to Prepare a Civil Motion” (Delaware)
“Motion to Modify, Extend, or Vacate Order of Protection from Abuse” (or Word file) (Delaware)
“Dismissal of Temporary Restraining Order” (Georgia)
“Court Forms” (Hawaii)
“Motion for Dismissal” (Hawaii: applicable to first district court protection order)
“Motion to Dismiss” (Hawaii: applicable to third district court protection order)
“Motion to and Declaration to Dissolve the Existing Order” (Hawaii: applicable to family court restraining order)
“Procedure to Change or Dismiss an Order of Protection” (Illinois)
“Protection Order Forms” (Indiana)
“Petitioner’s Verified Request for Dismissal” (Indiana)
“Request to Cancel or Change a Chapter 236 Protective Order” (or Word file) (Iowa)
“Protection From Abuse Forms” (Kansas)
“Notice of Dismissal” (Kansas)
“Order of Dismissal” (Kansas)
“Uniform Abuse Prevention Order Forms” (Louisiana)
“Plaintiff’s Pre-Judgment Motion to Dismiss Complaint” (Maine)
“Plaintiff’s Post-Judgment Motion to Modify or Terminate Protection Order” (Maine)
“Petition To Modify/Rescind Peace Order” (Maryland)
“Petition To Modify/Rescind Protective Order” (Maryland)
“Restraining Order & Harassment Forms” (Massachusetts)
“Plaintiff’s Motion to Modify or Terminate Abuse Prevention Order” (Massachusetts)
“Motion and Order to Dismiss Action for Personal Protection Order” (Michigan)
“Motion to Modify, Extend, or Terminate Personal Protection Order” (Michigan)
“Domestic Abuse Forms” (Minnesota)
“Affidavit and Order for Dismissal” (Minnesota)
“Procedure—Setting Aside Final Judgments in Missouri”
“Domestic Violence – Protective Orders: Forms for Printing” (Montana)
“Motion for Modification or Termination of the Protection Order” (Montana)
“Motion to Vacate and Set Aside and to Dismiss” (Nebraska)
“Modifying, Dissolving, or Appealing a Protection Order” (Nevada)
“Failure to Prosecute, Dismissals, and Withdrawals” (New Hampshire)
“Can A Domestic Violence Restraining Order Be Dismissed?” (New Jersey)
“Dissolving a Domestic Violence Restraining Order” (New Jersey)
“Motion to Dismiss Temporary Order of Protection” (New Mexico)
“Procedure to Dismiss an Order of Protection in New York”
“Family Court Forms” (New York)
“Motion to Modify or Terminate Domestic Violence Civil Protection Order” (Ohio)
“Family Abuse Prevention Act (FAPA) Forms” (Oregon)
“Petitioner’s Motion and Affidavit for Dismissal and Order” (Oregon)

Instructions from the First Judicial District of Pennsylvania for vacating a protection-from-abuse order (PFA).
“Domestic Protection Order Forms” (South Dakota)
“Motion to Dismiss Protection Order” (South Dakota)
“Order Dismissing Protection Order” (South Dakota)
“Prosecuting and Defending Protective Orders” (Texas)
“Protective Order Forms” (Utah)
“Order on Request to Dismiss or Vacate Protective Order” (Utah)
“Relief from Abuse Forms” (Vermont)
“Motion to Vacate Relief from Abuse Order” (Vermont)
“Guide to Civil Protection Orders in D.C.” (Washington D.C.) (see p. 27: “Vacating Your CPO”)
“Domestic Violence Forms” (West Virginia)
“Petition to Terminate Protective Order” (West Virginia)
“Order Dismissing/Denying Petition for TRO/Injunction” (Wisconsin)
“Can a plaintiff email the defendant’s husband when [there’s a] harassment order?”
Yes. Since you’ve arguably injured that man’s family, though, unless the intent of your email were conciliatory (that is, unless you were trying to negotiate a peace), you would likely stir up trouble. The restraining order that you were awarded doesn’t, strictly speaking, impose any limitations on your actions, only on the defendant’s.
“[C]an a police officer sue someone for making a false accusation?”
A police officer might have sufficient grounds to sue someone for making a false accusation against him or her, yes, especially if it was done publicly in a way that damaged the officer’s reputation or professional standing. A police officer couldn’t sue, though, for someone’s making false allegations against someone else. False reporting to a police officer is a misdemeanor crime that could only be prosecuted by the county/district attorney’s office.
“Can a police officer work in a town if someone has a restraining order against them?”
That’s probably a question for HQ (police admin). Unless having a restraining order against him or her were grounds for termination of employment from the police department, it would probably just impose some limitations on where the officer was permitted to go. Typically, though, restraining orders prohibit defendants from possessing firearms, which might well mean an officer couldn’t work in any town.
“Can [a] protection order forbid you to go to someone’s home who is not involved?”
Unless the court’s order specifically says so, no. Obviously if the plaintiff resides in that person’s home, it’s off-limits. Though restraining orders are boilerplate instruments, each will specify what addresses you’re forbidden to visit (usually the plaintiff’s residence and place of work or study). The only adult you’re forbidden contact with is the order’s plaintiff, though minor children in the plaintiff’s care may also be included on the injunction. If the plaintiff has requested an area be forbidden to you for no justifiable reason, you can bring this up at your appeals hearing or apply to see a judge to modify the order.
“Can a restrained person communicate through a lawyer?”
Ask one. A lawyer who’s representing you in a legal action against the plaintiff is authorized and legally bound to inform the plaintiff, certainly. Whether an attorney can tender an olive branch to the plaintiff or propose a reconciliation is a question s/he could best answer.
“Can a restraining order be placed with no hearing?”
Yes, in contravention of defendants’ constitutional right to due process, restraining orders are typically issued ex parte, which means based on allegations made by the accuser and articulated in a brief interview with a judge (five to 10 minutes). In some states (Arizona and Michigan are examples), no hearing is required (also in contravention of due process). In order to be heard at all, defendants must apply to the court to be given an audience and an opportunity to defend (which is often limited to around 15 minutes).
“Can a restraining order be taken out against a child under 10 in Maryland?”
Google Maryland + restraining order laws. I know juvenile restraining orders are available in California. See this Huffington Post story: “Father of Bullied Son Files Restraining Order against 9-Year-Old Kid.” See also this letter from the Maryland Office of the Attorney General.
“Can a restraining order become [a] public document without your knowledge?”
A restraining order is a public document.
“Can a restraining order ruin your future?”
No question about it. If you’re asking could it prevent you from getting a job, it would probably depend on the job. Whether knowledge of your having received a restraining order would be the reason an employer would cite for rejecting you is uncertain. Whether that knowledge would influence an employer’s decision is less uncertain. Running for high public office is probably off the table. (One reader found this blog by this search engine query: “old restraining order keeps me from getting jobs.” Other respondents report being denied jobs because of vacated restraining orders, that is, ones that were ultimately dismissed as baseless.)
“Can a stepmother sue an ex-wife for intentional infliction of emotional distress?”
Yes. A husband can’t sue his wife or she him. Otherwise, a litigant’s relationship with the other party in a lawsuit is irrelevant. What would matter in a suit of this sort is the plaintiff’s (the stepmother’s) ability to substantiate her allegations of intentional infliction of emotional distress against the defendant (the ex-wife). Consult your state’s definition of this tort to see whether the grounds of your complaint to the court would qualify. Typically for misconduct to rise to the level of intentional infliction of emotional distress, it has to be pretty heinous. Extreme misconduct is hardly unheard of in cases of abuse of restraining orders or related bureaucratic processes, but lawyers and judges need considerable persuading, because they’re unaccustomed to thinking of restraining orders, for example, as “abusive” (even though they know damn well that they’re abused—and routinely). You would need to firmly impress upon them the severity of your injury, which would likely require third-party corroboration (for example, from a doctor and/or therapist) and documentation, for example, of lost income, etc. Affidavits or testimony from family members or friends regarding your mood and behavior might also support your allegation.
“Can a teenager have a restraining order removed?”
If the teenager were still in the care of the adult guardian who petitioned the order, probably not, though this is a question that could be run past a lawyer with a phone call (no charge). If the petitioner of the restraining order were no longer (or was never) the teenager’s legal guardian, it’s possible the court might determine the restraining order to be void.
“Can [a] third party be arrested when breaking a protection order…?”
The only person who can violate a restraining order is the person against whom it was issued (that is, the defendant). A restraining order only applies to the actions of its defendant.
“Can a wife put a restraining order on someone for someone else?”
Only if that “someone else” is a minor or an adult deemed unfit to represent him- or herself. You can’t apply for a restraining order for someone else if the other person is an adult capable of self-representation.
“Can anyone attend a TPO hearing…?”
Yes. It’s a public proceeding.
“Can charges be filed for filing a false protective order?”
Only by the district prosecutor. Who won’t. So no.
“Can evidence help fight a restraining order?”
Assuredly. Don’t, however, expect evidence you provide to the court to speak for itself. Use it instead to support your interpretation of the restraining order plaintiff’s motive. Judges should ask questions and probe defendants’ allegations, but defendants shouldn’t take judges’ interest in the truth (or justice) for granted. The reason you have a restraining order in the first place is because a judge swallowed whatever story the plaintiff told him or her.
“Can I appeal if I lost a motion to terminate a PPO against me?”
If the ruling in a hearing to appeal a restraining order went against you, you may appeal the case to the next highest court, yes. Inquire at the courthouse that issued the order. In my state, applying for the opportunity to file an appellate memorandum with the Superior Court is free, and defendants have a month to craft their appeals briefs. If you exercise this option, find out what the criteria for judging such an appeal are. In Arizona, where I live, the Superior Court rules on such an appeal based on whether the lower court clearly “abused its discretion” in issuing/upholding a restraining order, that is, the next judge up the food chain doesn’t review a case de novo (from scratch); it determines whether the lower court overstepped its authority.
“Can I be arrested for mailing a certified letter if there [is] a restraining order against me?”
Not if you’re mailing legal documents, but such documents will of course have to have been filed with and approved by the courts beforehand. If, for example, you’ve filed a lawsuit against the plaintiff in a restraining order case against you, you may (and have to) mail the complaint and summons to him/her. If contact by mail is forbidden by the restraining order, though, mailing any other sort of communication to its plaintiff would be a violation of the order (whether by certified letter or other means). Put simply, you can mail court documents pursuant to a legal action; you can’t write to say hi.
“Can I be charged with violating a restraining order I didn’t know about…?”
Technically, no, but it’s not unheard of. If you’ve been accused of violating an order you were never served with, you need to appeal and make that clear to a judge.
“Can I be sued for libel if I write about my ex and don’t post his name?”
Qualifying grounds for suing someone for libel are that s/he lied about you publicly in a defamatory way. The key word here is lied. If what you write about your ex is true, no matter how unflattering it might be, it isn’t libel. Truth is an absolute defense against allegations of libel/slander/defamation. If you are sued for libel, and you didn’t lie about the plaintiff, you may countersue for malicious prosecution/abuse of process and request damages. A caveat to consider, however, is that when someone does sue for libel, the burden falls upon the defendant (you) to prove that what s/he’s reported is accurate. Can someone file a libel suit against you? Sure. Under the circumstances you specify, though, it’s very unlikely you would be sued.
“Can I call my accuser to the stand on stalking charges?”
A restraining order hearing isn’t a trial. It’s conducted more like a hearing for a traffic violation (in my state, anyway). Participants are sworn in but don’t take the stand. You can, though, pose questions to your accuser through the presiding judge, that is, the judge will communicate your question(s) to the plaintiff and require that s/he respond.
“Can I call my ex’s attorney when I have a restraining order on him?”
There’s certainly no legal impediment preventing you, though his attorney has no obligation to take your call. His attorney’s responding would probably depend on the nature of what you had to say or what you were asking of him or her. A lawyer is employed to serve the interests of his or her client.
“Can I contact my husband under an order of protection against him?”
Sure. But if he responds, he may be subject to arrest and incarceration. Better to communicate through a third party.
“Can I drop a PPO order I had taken out?”
Yes. Any time before it expires, you may go to the courthouse and have it vacated with no repercussions—though if allegations of domestic violence were made against a spouse, and there are minor children in the household, it’s possible the court would require that your domestic situation be investigated prior to issuing a ruling. See also this post.
“Can I drop a restraining order before court?”
Yes. You would file a motion with the court to have the temporary order dismissed/vacated.
“Can I fight a restraining order that’s been put on my boyfriend by the DA?”
Yes. See the links in this comment strand for advice.
“Can I file a civil suit against someone who has filed a false order for harassment against me?”
Yes. Survey similar questions on this page for further information.
“Can I file a lawsuit against my ex-wife for taking out an order of protection on me and wrecking my reputation?”
If she lied, absolutely. The standard of proof of libel/defamation requires that you demonstrate she publicly made false statements of fact about you that harmed your name and respectability. The statute of limitation for libel/defamation is usually one year.
“Can I [file a] motion to vacate an order…when I’m not the defendant?”
As the petitioner/plaintiff, you can move the court to vacate/dismiss an order you requested, yes (see above for links to forms and tutorials).
“Can I file a PFA [protection from abuse order] if my wife beats me?”
Certainly, yes. Though they wouldn’t strictly be necessary, photographs of injuries (bruises, etc.) would support your allegations.
“Can I fire my lawyer on a protective order case?”
Sure.
“Can I get a restraining order against my wife?”
If the court determines you have sufficient grounds, sure.
“Can I get a restraining order against someone who attacked me?”
Yes. That’s what restraining order laws were enacted to provide protection against.
“Can I get a restraining order on someone who got one on me? / “Can a respondent file an application for an injunction against the plaintiff?”
Yes. The court usually doesn’t discriminate (and, constitutionally speaking, shouldn’t). In some jurisdictions, however (for example, Illinois), there are laws on the books that prohibit “mutual orders.” See this post. This doesn’t bar applicants from filing separate petitions, though, which would be heard separately and assigned their own case numbers.
“Can I get an order of protection against someone who has one on me?”
Assuming you can persuade the court that you’re in need of protection, yes. And unless you’re asked, you’re not obligated to share that you’re under a court-ordered injunction yourself (which should have no bearing on your allegations, anyway). A restraining order in no way restricts your taking legal action against the plaintiff or reporting his or her misconduct to the police or the courts; it only forbids you from personally contacting or approaching the plaintiff. If you successfully petitioned for a protection order, you would still have to observe the injunction against you or risk arrest. The defendant on the restraining order you got would be identically restricted.
“Can I get in trouble for emailing with a restraining order?”
Yes. Consult the court order you were issued. Sometimes only face-to-face contact is forbidden, but if the plaintiff has indicated no emails, telephone calls, etc., then those forms of communication are also off-limits, and engaging in them could make you subject to arrest.
“Can I get in trouble for not paying the court costs for someone [who] put a restraining order on me?”
If the court has ordered you to pay those costs, yes. If you’re asking whether you’re automatically obligated to pay attorney fees for the plaintiff’s being represented at a hearing, the answer is probably no. It was the plaintiff’s choice to hire counsel. If in doubt, don’t hesitate to go to the courthouse and ask.
“Can I get in trouble for violating my own restraining order years later?”
No. There are no grounds, that is, for your being arrested for communicating with the defendant in spite of a restraining order you obtained that’s now expired—or for your communicating with that person since its expiration. Some basis for the defendant to sue you may still endure, but the probability of this is low.
“Can I get in trouble if I don’t report my husband violated the PPO?”
Not legally. If your reasons for taking out the protection order were legitimate, though—that is, if your husband’s dangerous—then you could be inviting further violations. The only value of a restraining order (a legitimate one) is to check the behavior of someone who has a basic respect for the law. (Restraining orders are band-aids dispensed to reassure the public that the government cares. That’s why they’re most effective when they’re false). If your husband is dangerous and has no respect for the law, a restraining order is all but useless, and you’d do well to consider an alternative solution, like relocating. (This is the pickle the court puts you in: reporting your husband may only inflame a volatile situation.) If, on the other hand, your husband isn’t dangerous and you’ve thought better of the restraining order and that’s why you haven’t reported the violation, you may pacify the situation by going to the courthouse and having it nullified. A lawyer or women’s advocate could tell you if there’s a middle course, like hashing out differences through a mediator.
“Can I get in trouble for talking to someone I filed a protection order against…?”
No. But the other person could. Enforcing no-contact is presumably why you filed for the protection order.
“Can I get into trouble [for] speaking to someone with a restraining order?”
A restraining order’s prohibitions only apply to its defendant (its recipient), that is, a restraining order only prohibits its defendant from communicating with its plaintiff. If you’re asking as the defendant in a restraining order case, the only person (or people) you can get into trouble speaking to are the ones you’ve been told not to speak to. If you’re asking whether you can get into trouble for speaking to someone else who has a restraining order, the answer is no. Though it’s often among the evil effects restraining orders have, they aren’t meant to place defendants in social quarantine.
“Can I go to my husband’s court [hearing] if the district attorney placed a criminal protection order on him?”
Yes. A restraining order against your husband in no way constrains your actions.
“Can I include my girlfriend in a restraining order?”
If you’re asking whether you can include your girlfriend as a co-plaintiff on a restraining order that you apply for against a third party, no. You and your girlfriend would have to file separate restraining orders against him or her.
“Can I keep a sociopath out of my same state with a restraining order?”
No.
“Can I post pics on Facebook of someone who has a restraining order against me?”
Facebook may have its own policies concerning posting pictures of others. You’re technically only constrained from performing activities specified on the court’s order (forbidden activities are usually limited to contacting or approaching the plaintiff). Posting pictures of the plaintiff that s/he might object to is not going to land you in jail. It might, however, provoke the plaintiff to cause you more legal aggravation.
“Can I put a restraining order on my spouse forbidding them to talk to someone else?”
Strictly speaking, no (though this is a common ulterior motive among restraining order applicants, especially ones who’ve cheated on their husbands or wives and don’t want them finding out—or who don’t want their spouses cheating on them).
“Can I request to get the affidavit on [a] restraining order…?”
On a restraining order against you, yes. See a clerk at the courthouse, and assert your right to know what the plaintiff has alleged against you. If you’re insistent, the clerk should provide the affidavit with some information redacted (crossed out), such as the plaintiff’s address. If you’re refused, an attorney can obtain it for you.
“Can I request to have a restraining order vacated if its petitioner harasses me?”
Not per se. You certainly can, though, apply for a restraining order yourself against the plaintiff of the one against you. You can also report this person’s misconduct to the police (who will likely call the person and warn him or her to stop). Having a restraining order against you in no way impedes your instituting legal action against its plaintiff or reporting his or her actions to the police and/or courts.
“Can I send a letter to the court against my protection order?”
It’s perfectly lawful to write to a judge. It’s very unlikely to have any effect in your favor, though. If the judge obviously violated his ethical duties, you can file a complaint against him or her with your state’s Commission on Judicial Conduct. This is unlikely to affect the ruling, either, however. You can appeal the verdict to the Superior Court (no cost), but it bases its ruling on whether the lower court judge clearly abused his discretion, so you’d want to orient your appeal toward proving s/he did (i.e., that s/he went out of bounds). If the window for filing for an appeals hearing has closed, or you’ve already had an appeals hearing and it went against you, you’re stuck with applying directly to the plaintiff (through an attorney) to have him or her cooperate in vacating the restraining order in lieu of litigation (and this may only be a viable option after the order has expired). This answer presumes you’re the defendant. If you’re the plaintiff, you can have your restraining order quashed by dropping by the courthouse—or, if it has expired, by having an attorney file a nunc pro tunc motion.
“Can I Skype if the order of protection says ‘phone’?”
Generally speaking, you’re not forbidden from using Skype. If you’re asking whether you can contact the plaintiff via Skype, that would probably be okay if the order allows phone contact. The plaintiff would have the option of responding to your call if s/he wanted or ignoring it if s/he didn’t. If the order forbids phone contact with the plaintiff, though, Skyping him or her would also be forbidden, obviously.
“Can I still send my kids things even though the girl has a restraining order?”
Consult the specific constraints on the restraining order you were issued. Sometimes only face-to-face contact with the plaintiff is forbidden, but oftentimes all contact is forbidden. The children may even be listed on the court’s order as additional parties you’re forbidden from contacting. Be very sure you’re authorized contact with your children before sending them anything, because even mailing something as innocuous as a birthday card could land you in jail (and you wouldn’t be the first to be arrested for something so harmless and understandable).
“Can I submit a letter to the courts in defense of my boyfriend, who was charged with domestic violence against me?”
Yes. This is unlikely to have any effect, though. You’d do better to provide testimony in his defense at a hearing or to provide him or his attorney with an affidavit, which is a written statement that you would have notarized to make it the equivalent of sworn testimony. See also this comment thread on vacating a criminal restraining order (a.k.a “mandatory order” or MRO).
“Can I sue a stalker who has filed a restraining order against me falsely to only then beat me up and say it was self-defense since they have a restraining order against me in place?”
PLEASE DO.
“Can I sue my soon-to-be ex-husband for filing a bogus order of protection?”
Yes, but you’d probably have to postpone filing your complaint with the court until the divorce was final.
“Can I sue someone for filing a wrongful restraining order that cost me my job?”
Yes. See similar questions for a more detailed answer.
“Can I sue if a police officer lied about serving a restraining order?”
You can sue anyone for anything (including officers of the law and court—yep, you can sue a judge just like anyone else whose negligent conduct injures you). To show standing to prosecute a complaint (lawsuit), you need to demonstrate that you were injured and have a vested stake in the court’s redressing that injury. If you were served with a restraining order, the police officer should be able to produce a receipt with your signature on it.
“Can I sue someone for mental anguish from attempting to get a restraining order?”
Yes. To make a compelling case, though, you’d have to see a counselor and doctor so the court had some third-party substantiation of your suffering. If it was merely an attempt and the duration of your suffering was brief, the sympathy you could expect would probably be scant. If you could show a pattern of conduct, you’d stand a better chance of prevailing in a lawsuit. If this pattern rose to a sufficient level of egregiousness, you could sue for intentional infliction of emotional distress.
“Can I sue someone who wrongfully filed a civil harassment suit?”
Yes. See also above. Torts for suits alleging malicious prosecution or abuse of process involving a restraining order are likely to be among these: malicious prosecution/abuse of process, defamation, false light, intentional infliction of emotional distress, and fraud (on you and/or the police and courts). Other torts may apply, such as those entailing invasion of privacy. See your local law library for a book of jury instructions (which will show you not only what torts may be alleged in your state but how those torts are defined and what you would need to prove to establish liability).
“Can I talk to the police about emotional abuse?”
Certainly, yes. Whether an officer could assist you with resolving the abuse would depend on the circumstances.
“Can I travel to Bangladesh and reenter the U.S. with a restraining order?”
Unless you’re under unique restrictions, there’s no evident reason for concern. Though it may feel otherwise, you’re not being monitored. A civil restraining order prescribes limitations on your interaction with another party. That’s all. Violation of a restraining order (e.g., contacting the plaintiff) can result in the deportation of a non-citizen, but travel is not a violation. A restraining order is meant to keep you away from someone, not keep you close. To be certain your restrictions aren’t peculiar, review the court’s order, and don’t hesitate to inquire with the court (i.e., a judge, not a clerk) if you’re still anxious.
“Can multiple persons be named in a restraining order?”
Unless the laws in your state are exceptional, only one adult can be named as “plaintiff” on a restraining order, though children in that adult’s care may additionally be listed. Multiple adults seeking a restraining order against a single defendant would have to apply separately.
“Can my attorney speak to the person I have a restraining order against?”
Of course. Anybody can. Injunctions (excepting mutual no-contact orders) are one-way: the only person restrained by a restraining order is the defendant (who could freely respond to your attorney if s/he wished).
“Can my employer stop me from talking to someone else?”
While you’re on the clock, yes. An employer can’t impose limitations on how you spend your personal time, though. See the question, “Can your employer make you file a restraining order on someone?” for how to respond to workplace/employer coercion. If the job is one you couldn’t live without, consider asking the other person not to visit or call you at work and reassure your employer that your relationship with the other person isn’t one s/he need be concerned about.
“Can my ex come back to the house to get her stuff if I have an order of protection?”
No, the order of protection prohibits her from nearing you or your place of residence (on pain of police arrest). You could, though, have her belongings delivered to her or let someone pick them up for her.
“Can my fiancé ask the DA to terminate the criminal protective order that he has with me?”
He can ask, yes.
“Can my girlfriend get arrested for lying on a protective order?”
In theory, yes. In practice, no. Perjury, though a felony, is a crime in name only. The statute is seldom enforced and never in commonplace matters. The district prosecutor, if asked why, would shrug and say that if he prosecuted everyone who lied, there’d be no one outside of prison to caddy for him.
“Can my husband have the court date changed?”
Sure, provided the court finds his request for a postponement to be worthy.
“Can my spouse file a protective order after I filed one already?” / “Can someone file a restraining order against me if I have one against them?”
Yes. In a democracy, what’s deemed fair for you to do is deemed fair for all to do. In some jurisdictions, entitlement to file cross-claims is restricted, but it’s usually possible for defendants to apply for injunctions against plaintiffs provided they’re insistent and meet certain qualifications.
“Can restraining orders be served via postal mail?”
Possibly. I’ve heard of a restraining order being served by video on Facebook. Service requires confirmation that the defendant has been provided with a copy of the court’s order or had that order read out to him verbatim. If a restraining order were mailed, it would probably require a signature from the defendant confirming receipt to properly qualify as served.
“Can someone file a restraining order on the other person who already has one on them?”
Sure.
“Can someone file multiple protection orders?”
Yes, even against a single person.
“Can someone get a restraining order against me for posting a blog?”
It would probably depend on how a judge perceived its intent. The courts generally consider blogs to be the equivalent of online diaries. If you haven’t contacted the person in question and repeatedly been told not to, you’re not vulnerable to an allegation of harassment. If you haven’t lied about the defendant, you’re also immune to allegations of libel or defamation. Unless you’re leaking state secrets, posting information or opinion is protected under the Constitution. Where a judge might take exception to your blog is if its intent is patently malicious or invades the privacy of the other person (or, in the case of warring parents, if it stands to injure the kids). If the gist of your blog is, “X did this” or “X did this to me, and I think s/he’s a dirtbag,” saying so is your First Amendment prerogative. In other words, it’s defensible. That said, restraining orders lacking any meritorious basis are awarded to petitioners routinely. “S/he posted a blog about me, and I feel threatened!” may strike some judge or other as sufficient grounds (particularly an older judge who thinks the Internet is a playground for perverts). A goodly percentage of restraining orders are obtained on the force of dramatic persuasion alone. Should someone be able to get a restraining order against you for posting a blog? Excluding the exceptional cases I’ve mentioned, no. See also this post.
“Can someone get a restraining order against me without my knowledge?”
Restraining orders are issued ex parte, meaning based on interviews between judges and plaintiffs. Defendants are only informed after the fact. So yes, someone can obtain a restraining order without your knowledge. Service of the restraining order is required, however, for it to take effect. If you haven’t been served with a court order and informed of its restrictions on your freedom, you can’t be expected to observe it.
“Can someone park their vehicle in front of your house if you have a TRO against them?”
If the court has ordered this person not to come within a certain distance of you and/or your residence, then his/her parking in front of your house is a willful violation of the restraining order and grounds for arrest.
“Can someone place a restraining order after one contact in five years?”
Restraining orders are meant to restrain chronic behaviors. That said, a judge may sign off on a restraining order in the absence of any qualifying evidence. If you’re issued a restraining order based on a single isolated meeting, you would have strong grounds to appeal.
“Can someone put a restraining order on me for calling her a bitch?”
Calling someone a name is not sufficient grounds for a restraining order. This is the land of the free (supposedly, at least): you’re entitled to call a Supreme Court Justice a bitch. This person, though, especially if she is a bitch, could allege that you’ve repeatedly harassed her despite her asking you to leave her alone or make any number of similar claims to a judge (they don’t have to be true). Steer clear of her, and tell her to leave you alone.
“Can someone put a restraining order on me from another state?”
Yes.
“Can someone sue you for filing a restraining order against them?” / “Can someone sue me for filing a false restraining order that was dismissed?” / “Can I be sued for a dismissed domestic abuse restraining order?” / “Can I sue if [the] plaintiff dismissed [the] charges?” / “Can I sue…if an order of protection was taken [out] against me, and the accusations were proven to be false?” / “Can I sue the plaintiff if a protection order is quashed for legal fees, etc.?” / “Can I sue a neighbor for filing false charges against me that could affect my job?”
Yes.
“Can someone take out a restraining order for someone else?”
No, not unless the other person is a minor or an adult found to be incapable of representing him- or herself. Hawaii’s family court, for example, has a specific application for this (“Petition for an Order for Protection on Behalf of a Family or Household Member“).
“Can someone who has a restraining order on me tell my boss?”
Yes, s/he can tell anyone. Restraining orders are public documents. This doesn’t mean, however, that the restraining order plaintiff could lie to your boss with impunity. If s/he made false claims about you that imperiled your employment, you could sue him or her for damages or seek an injunction against the plaintiff of your own, alleging harassment.
“Can someone write on Facebook about you if you have a restraining order against them?”
A restraining order doesn’t mean someone can’t talk or write about you. It just means s/he can’t talk or write to you. If what the defendant has written is patently harassing or taunting, you may have grounds for having the restraining order modified to forbid this kind of public expression. If, however, the defendant is reporting facts about the case, that’s his or her constitutional right (as is his or her expressing an opinion about those facts). Restraining orders are matters of public record. If the defendant (or anyone else) lies about you publicly in a damaging way, you may sue him or her for defamation.
“Can the state pick up a case after you drop a restraining order?”
If a restraining order that was electively petitioned in civil court were vacated upon the request of the petitioner, there wouldn’t seem to be any grounds for further state interest. If the order had been violated, that is, if the plaintiff and defendant had been communicating or seeing each other in spite of the order’s prohibitions and this were reported, it might constitute grounds for a renewal of scrutiny. Otherwise, I can’t conceive of a reason why terminating the restraining order wouldn’t be a legal end on the matter.
“Can women get away with false protective orders?”
Sure. Men, too (though not as easily).
“Can you be prosecuted for lying to get a restraining order?”
Yes. If you lie about a material fact in a restraining order case (that is, one likely to influence a judge), you’re vulnerable to prosecution by the county/district attorney for felony perjury. You may also be prosecuted in civil court (sued) by the person you lie about (for defamation, false light, fraud, etc.).
“Can you be violated for a restraining order after it expires?”
Expired means no longer valid/effective. A possible exception would be if you violated the restraining order before it expired, and this was easily proved.
“Can you beat a PFA…if you have prior mental issues?”
Possibly. You would probably need a counselor (therapist, psychologist) or doctor/psychiatrist to testify on your behalf at an appeals hearing, whether in person or by affidavit. Ideally, you should have an attorney represent you, besides. Because you’re not being charged with a crime, guilt is less a factor than whether the plaintiff has a legitimate reason to be concerned for his or her safety, privacy, or peace of mind. If the allegations against you are nonviolent—if you were merely accused of harassing conduct, for example—you might be able to base a defense on a mental condition like manic depression, schizophrenia, or Tourette syndrome—a condition, that is, that causes you to involuntarily engage in activity that someone would find unsettling or distressing.
“Can you file a restraining order based on hearsay…?”
You can file a restraining order based on fantasy or outright lies.
“Can you get a fake restraining order?”
Daily if you’re determined enough.
“Can you get a protective order because of a threatening phone call?”
Possibly, though a threat communicated by phone is impossible to substantiate (prove) unless the call was recorded.
“Can you get a restraining order for comments made on Facebook?”
If you’ve been libeled (that is, if someone has made false, public statements that traduced your name and respectability) or if you’ve libeled someone yourself, redress through the courts would probably be by lawsuit. Grounds for a restraining order would be your repeatedly making comments to someone or that person’s repeatedly directing unwanted comments to you despite being told not to. In other words, if you keep posting to someone’s wall or emailing him or her in spite of that person’s telling you to buzz off, s/he could allege harassment and be granted a restraining order. If you post comments about someone to someone else, and those comments can be defended as either truthful or simply your opinion, the person you wrote about would not have grounds for filing for a restraining order against you (which, unfortunately, doesn’t mean a great deal: a judge can approve a restraining order on a whim). Play it safe. If you’ve got someone threatening to petition for a restraining order against you, keep your communications about that person private.
“Can you get a restraining order if you don’t want someone to view your finances at their place of employment?”
Probably not, per se. If the person were to use that information inappropriately in a way that injured you or that demonstrably invaded your privacy, you might have grounds to allege harassment (besides report that person for professional misconduct).
“Can you get a restraining order to stop someone from posting messages on Facebook and [sending] text messages?”
Yes. Before taking this extreme step, though, why not tell the person to stop and inform the person of your intention if s/he doesn’t? That may suffice to resolve the nuisance and would save you and him/her a good deal of grief (and the taxpaying public about $2,000).
“Can you get an order of protection against you for only stating your opinion about someone?”
Strictly speaking, no. There might be exceptions, for example, if you publicly stated the opinion that the other person would look better in a noose or in concrete shoes at the bottom of the ocean. Opinion is protected under the Constitution. Unless your opinion could be persuasively interpreted as threatening, there isn’t a substantive basis for a protection order.
“Can you get fair representation yourself against a lawyer in court?”
In theory, yes. In practice, no. Courts show partiality toward attorneys and those represented by them. Restraining order defendants are an exceptional case. For restraining order defendants, having a lawyer definitely improves the odds of their prevailing in a hearing but doesn’t guarantee success, because courts also show partiality toward restraining order plaintiffs (applicants, that is, especially female ones). If you’re a restraining order defendant and the plaintiff is represented by counsel, you’re going to have a very tough time of it on your own. Retain a lawyer yourself if at all feasible.
“Can you legally explain your side of a temporary restraining order on Facebook?”
A restraining order doesn’t deny you your freedom of speech. If you’re forbidden all contact with the plaintiff, though, you can’t message him or her on Facebook. Also, take care when writing that what you say is defensible (that is, true and factual) and that you don’t provide the plaintiff with grounds to allege harassment. If you’re writing about a restraining order that’s still in effect, you’d be wise to imagine that everything you say will be read by a judge. A blog is typically viewed by the courts as an online diary, so a blog might provide you with more latitude to express yourself than you’d have writing on Facebook. A blog requires that others choose to read what you post there; things you post on Facebook are automatically forwarded to those in your circle, making it an aggressive medium rather than a passive one (a judge may discern a difference, that is, between your explaining your side and your advertising it). See also this post.
“Can you post a restraining order on Facebook?”
A restraining order is a public document.
“Can you press charges for harassment with a PPO in effect?”
You can certainly try. An injunction doesn’t forbid your filing a police report or taking other legal action against the plaintiff (for example, suing him or her). Just make sure any documents you send or have served on the plaintiff are mailed or delivered through proper channels (i.e., do not contact or confront the plaintiff in person). Such documents must, of course, have been processed by the court ahead of time. If you’re male and you’re being harassed by a female plaintiff with a protection order against you, your allegations are likely to be discounted by the police. An attorney could best advise you on available recourses, which will probably be through the courts. Initial consultations are usually free.
“Can you re-serve a restraining order?”
If you’re asking whether you can apply for another restraining order to replace one that has expired, yes, if the conduct complained of in the first injunction resumes.
“Can you report that your girlfriend will file a fake restraining order?”
No. The court only rules on actual misconduct. It won’t act on your prediction. If there’s no restraining order in effect at present, though, you’re perfectly free to tell your girlfriend that you intend to sue her penniless if she follows through on the threat—which you would have every right to do in such a case.
“Can you send a greeting card to someone who has a restraining order against you?”
Consult the order you were served. If it prohibits all contact with the plaintiff, including by phone, email, and post, then sending a card would be a violation. Take the court’s order very seriously, because defendants have been arrested for acts as innocuous as this.
“Can you settle a restraining order out of court?”
Possibly. Bear in mind that if you’re the defendant and the restraining order is in effect, your contacting the plaintiff is probably forbidden and grounds for arrest. Consult the court’s order to see whether all contact is off-limits. Sometimes communication by phone, letter, or email is allowed. If it isn’t, then you’d either have to speak via a third party (which may also be forbidden) or through an attorney to avoid risk of arrest. If the restraining order was fraudulent, you can of course sue for damages and possibly settle the matter out of court that way. If you’re the plaintiff in the case, you can return to the court and request that it be vacated.
“Can you still be pressed with charges if you talked during a restraining order, but the restraining order is over?”
The window for reporting a violation is probably closed now that the injunction has expired. This is a question you could likely run past a criminal attorney for no charge, though, if you’re really concerned. Make a call and frame the question this way: “I’m wondering if I need to retain legal counsel. My situation is….”
“Can you still sue someone if you have a restraining order against you?”
Yes. A restraining order isn’t an impediment to instituting a civil action against the plaintiff. Once you’ve filed your complaint and summons with the court (usually your local Superior Court), you may send the court-approved documents to the defendant by certified mail or have them served on the defendant by a local law officer or process server. (You want a confirmation that the defendant received them, which you need to provide to the court to proceed.) Keep everything on the up and up. Your only communication with the defendant will be through legal briefs submitted through the court (copies of which you’ll mail to the defendant or the defendant’s attorney).
“Can you stop a restraining order before it is served?”
If you’re the plaintiff, possibly. You’d have to return to the courthouse and move to have it vacated. If you’re the defendant, no. You’d have to request an appeals hearing.
“Can you sue a counselor if she doesn’t keep her word?”
You may have grounds for suing her and/or having her license revoked if she breached confidentiality (that is, if she talked about your private sessions with a third party or parties without your consent).
“Can you sue for legal fees on a dropped restraining order?”
Yes. If you’re only out a few thousand or less, filing in small claims would be simplest—and you could represent yourself if having a lawyer represent you would cause your damage claim to exceed that court’s award limit.
“Can you sue for repetitive false restraining orders?”
You can sue anyone for anything, certainly, and it only costs a couple hundred or so to file a lawsuit with the Superior Court. Getting a judge to recognize the pain, suffering, and stress that the kind of sniping you’re talking about causes is challenging, though, because the court obviously doesn’t want to cop to its role in this abuse. If you could qualify and substantiate your losses adequately, and you filed your complaint within the statutes of limitation for whatever torts you were alleging, you could probably recover on your suffering and simultaneously bring this conduct to a permanent halt. Consider, also, if you’re seeking to recover damages, requesting a jury trial (instead of a “bench trial”). There’s an extra cost for a jury, but I’d sooner rely on Joe and Jane Doe to recognize how torturous what you’re complaining of is than a judge.
“Can you sue someone if you have a restraining order?”
Yes. A restraining order isn’t an impediment to your taking legal action against your accuser. Injunction against contacting him or her doesn’t apply to mailing legal documents (a court summons and lawsuit, for example) or to having legal documents delivered by a process server or local law officer. Nor, incidentally, does it apply to your talking to anyone else you might wish to, whether an attorney, friends on Facebook, or people who know both you and the plaintiff whom you want to explain the situation to and/or obtain testimony from. If you choose to meet with a mutual acquaintance, of course, make sure the plaintiff won’t be present.
“Can you violate a restraining order if a temporary order was created the same day you supposedly violated it?”
Technically a restraining order isn’t valid until it’s been served on the defendant. You can’t, that is, be expected to observe an order of the court until you’ve been provided with a copy of it or have otherwise been informed of its specifications (by having it read out to you by a law officer, for example).
“Can your employer make you file a restraining order on someone?”
No. S/he couldn’t compel you to prosecute someone by threatening to fire you, that is. If your employer objects to someone’s conduct, s/he should apply to the courts him- or herself. If you are threatened by your employer for not doing something that clearly falls outside of your job duties, file a complaint with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC). Employers are not permitted to retaliate against you for filing such a complaint. There are also statutes (laws) against workplace coercion/retaliation, such as those defined here.
“Do courts send out text messages about restraining orders?”
I’ve never heard of this, no.
“Do I have to go back to court to quash a restraining order?”
An attorney could prepare the paperwork for you, but it’s possible the court will require a followup hearing that you would have to attend.
“Do I need an attorney to fight a restraining order…?”
Maybe not. If “maybe not” isn’t what you want to bank your future well-being on, get an attorney. Hock your car if you have to.
“[Do] I, the plaintiff, have every right to drop my protective order anytime before my court date?”
You have the right to apply (move) for the order’s vacation. It’s possible that a judge, at his or her discretion, could deny your motion.
“Do judges hold people in contempt for violating a restraining order…?”
Yes.
“Do judges like attorneys at restraining order hearings?”
No, because it complicates things and makes them accountable for their rulings. Bring one. Bring two.
“Do narcissistic men trick courts into giving them restraining orders?”
With ease, yes, and a good deal of relish, besides. Narcissistic women, too. Glib lying comes naturally to narcissistic sociopaths, and lying successfully (bending others to their will) gratifies their egos, which know no bounds. Narcissists have a pathological lust for vengeance, and restraining orders not only cater to their talents—social manipulation and dominance—but are very effective at wreaking havoc on the lives of those whom they target for revenge.
“Do police call if someone takes out an injunction or restraining order on you?”
If the plaintiff first filed a complaint with the police, possibly. If the plaintiff went straight to the courthouse, you may not be informed you’ve been issued a restraining order until you’re served with it (though a phone call from a cop may constitute “service” in some locales).
“Do police inform neighbors of no-contact orders?”
Typically, no.
“Do restraining orders prevent people from making phone calls to employers?”
A restraining order may forbid a defendant from making phone calls to the employer of the plaintiff, yes, if the employer and the plaintiff share the same workplace. Typically restraining orders will list those locations that are off-limits to a defendant. Calling an employer may be a gray area. The purpose of a restraining order is to restrict a defendant from contacting its plaintiff.
“Do the police track your phone with restraining orders?”
Unless the circumstances were extraordinary ones, no. To the best of my knowledge, the police would have to apply to the court for permission to tap a telephone line or monitor its records, which authorization would only be granted in the case of probable criminal activity. There might be exceptions under the Patriot Act, but it isn’t standard protocol, no. Millions of restraining orders are issued each year, and there aren’t resources enough for the police to monitor that many phones. You would likely have grounds for filing a lawsuit, besides, if your privacy were invaded in this way without justification.
“Do women with borderline personality disorder make false rape allegations?”
False allegations of a sexual nature are common, yes. One female respondent to this blog, the long-term girlfriend of a man who’s likely a borderline, reported being accused of rape (coerced sex). Another woman, whose borderline personality-disordered boyfriend had physically abused her, was accused of sexual kinks in court, which worked to explain away her allegations of violence. From “BPD Distortion Campaigns”: “What lies do BPs [borderline personalities] tell? Often they revolve around false claims of partner abuse, child abuse, perverse sexual behaviors, drug and substance abuse, mental illness, and criminal conduct.”
“Do you get served a new restraining order when it’s modified…?”
Restraining order laws and procedures vary from state to state, but probably you would simply be mailed a copy of the modified terms.
“Do you have to notify your job [that] you have a PPO against someone?”
No, but it wouldn’t be a bad idea if this person legitimately poses a danger to you or others.
“Do you have to out that you have an order of protection on a job application?”
To the best of my knowledge, you’re under no ethical obligation to report that you’re the recipient of a civil restraining order to a prospective employer unless asked. Note that restraining orders are civil instruments and do not mean that you’ve been convicted of a crime. A restraining order equates (in legal significance, anyway) to a civil misdemeanor and doesn’t represent a criminal anything.
“Does a denied temporary restraining order stay on my record?”
Possibly. Some respondents to this blog report that they’ve been denied jobs because of vacated restraining orders (ones, that is, that were dismissed/quashed). You should endeavor to find out what kind of residue remains on public record and see that it’s expunged. Since you’re arguably a victim of abuse of process/malicious prosecution, don’t hesitate to go to the courthouse and request an interview with a judge to see that your record is cleared, particularly if the order was approved and quashed on appeal. If the court approved the ex parte order in the first place, it’s the court’s responsibility to see that you’re not punished for a judicial error.
“Does a restraining order include my new girlfriend, too?”
Not per se, no. A restraining order only applies to its defendant/respondent. It may, however, expressly prohibit “third-party contact” with the plaintiff/petitioner, which means that if your new girlfriend were to contact the plaintiff and that contact could be construed as being instigated by you, you could be charged with violating the order. Your girlfriend’s actions, in other words, aren’t restricted, but if she were to act injudiciously toward the plaintiff, you could end up paying for it.
“Does a restraining order stay on your record?”
Yes, indefinitely.
“Does calling an elementary school saying I am abusive to children count for slander?”
Yes, provided the allegation has no factual basis, that is, you may sue for defamation if someone lies about you publicly in a way that injures your name and respectability.
“Does having a protection order against you prevent travel to the U.S.A.?”
I don’t see why it would (unless there’s only one departing flight, and the plaintiff is the pilot). If you’re worried, don’t hesitate to call or go to the courthouse that issued the order and ask.
“Does it help to have friends write letters for a temporary restraining order?”
The testimony of friends and associates who can speak to your character or who are material witnesses may help your defense, yes, especially if they can back up your account. The court would probably accept letters, but statements are more valid in the form of affidavits, which are simply written statements that have been witnessed by a notary public and made the equivalent of sworn testimony. Query Google for an example affidavit from your state to use as a template. If the judge allowed it, witnesses could also testify in person at your hearing.
“Does my harassment protection order protect me from being charged for defending myself?”
Laws vary from state to state, but probably not, no.
“Does the accuser have to be present in court for a restraining order?”
At an appeals hearing, yes, typically. The Constitution requires that a defendant be afforded the opportunity to face his or her accuser. Accordingly, defendants may interrogate (ask questions of) their accusers through the presiding judge (defendants, in other words, may pose their questions to the judge, and the court will communicate them to the plaintiff and require a response). Rules vary from state to state, however. An exception might be if the accuser has claimed mortal apprehension.
“Does the applicant for a protection order have to go to court if they are too unwell to?”
Eventually, yes, if the defendant has been granted an appeals hearing. You can, however, explain your condition and request a continuance (postponement).
“How are restraining orders abused?”
Restraining order abuse is limited only by the extent of an applicant’s imagination and malicious ill will. See this page for a more detailed answer.
“How can a judge just approve a restraining order when the [person] is lying?”
Restraining orders aren’t issued on the basis of truthful allegations; they’re issued on the basis of probability. What a plaintiff claims (violence, stalking, rape—it doesn’t matter) isn’t what’s important. If a judge is persuaded there’s a greater chance that the plaintiff has a reason to feel concern or fear or whatever than that the plaintiff is totally lying or complaining about nothing, then the “burden of proof” is satisfied. Lies aren’t prosecuted or even acknowledged, and allegations don’t have to be true to work. A judge rules on the forcefulness of a complaint, not on its strict factuality.
“How can I charge someone for intimidating me when they have a protective order filed against me?”
A restraining order only forbids your contacting or approaching the plaintiff. It in no way limits your taking legal action against him or her. If the plaintiff is harassing or threatening you, you may report his or her conduct to the police and ask an officer to request that s/he desist, or you can turn the tables and apply to the court for a restraining order against him or her. Keep a careful record (a dated log) of all such activity so you can substantiate your claim. Abuse of restraining orders to dominate or taunt defendants isn’t uncommon. Don’t allow yourself to be baited into violating the protection order, but don’t tolerate continued abuse, either.
“How can I drop a criminal restraining order?”
Restraining orders that issue from civil court are electively petitioned by plaintiffs. Criminal restraining orders (also called mandatory restraining orders or MROs) are issued by the court in conjunction with criminal cases. See this page prepared by a Denver attorney for explanations of what criminal restraining orders signify and how they may be vacated.
“How can I get a restraining order dropped for something I never did…?”
Appeal. Some jurisdictions assign appeals hearings. Others require that they be applied for by a certain deadline. This information should be on the first page of the injunction you received. Also, get an attorney if at all possible.
“How can somebody be stopped from filing false restraining orders?”
The only certain way I can think of is homicide, which isn’t a recourse I condone. Within the law, your options are limited. If this is a serial behavior, especially part of a campaign of harassment, you could have a lawyer draft a cease-and-desist letter (which is toothless), apply for a restraining order yourself (see this post), or sue (for harassment, emotional distress, etc.). There might also be grounds for pressing charges.
“How can you know if a TRO has been canceled if you are the person being restrained?”
The court should notify you—or you can look up your case online at the courthouse’s website to see if it’s been vacated (canceled, nullified).
“How can you make someone drop a false restraining order?”
I presume you mean legally? Sue for damages. Short of that, you could employ an attorney to “invite” the petitioner to recant in lieu of facing litigation. Appeal it, of course, if the window of opportunity hasn’t already shut.
“How common is restraining order abuse?”
It’s been extrapolated from government studies that as many as 80% of restraining orders are either frivolous (“unnecessary”) or fraudulent. A frivolous restraining order might be one that forbids someone from annoyingly texting too persistently. To put this in perspective, an injunction to stop someone from texting you (on pain of police arrest) may cost the state $1,300 to $2,000 just to process. A fraudulent restraining order would be one that’s based on lies and likely motivated by sheer malice (its cost to state resources is the same). It’s estimated that as many as three million restraining orders are filed each year. Therefore 2.4 million restraining orders might fall into the categories of frivolous or false (at a correspondent cost to the nation in the neighborhood of $3.2 billion).
“How do authorities make people feel when they come out to handle a restraining order situation?”
Cops’ responses will typically favor restraining order plaintiffs (that is, petitioners). Defendants, on the contrary, will be treated with suspicion, possibly even distaste.
“How do I check online to see if I have a domestic case against me?”
You would go to the website of the courthouse where the case was opened and enter your name (this may be the city courthouse or the county courthouse).
“How do I get my attorney fees back for lies about me to get a PPO…?”
Litigate. To recover a sum of a few thousand dollars, you could sue in small claims court.
“How do I handle a fake police report and false restraining order?”
Apply for an appeals hearing, and retain an attorney. See also this post.
“How do I know if I’ve been served a restraining order…?”
A constable will have put it in your hands. It’s possible, though, that you’ve been issued one and not served. If you know what jurisdiction (court) the order would have been sought in, the courthouse should be able to tell you. Technically, you shouldn’t be subject to arrest for violating a restraining order you were never served. Which isn’t to say you couldn’t be arrested. It’s happened.
“How do I prove my girlfriend punched herself in the eye for a domestic charge?”
You’d probably need video evidence or corroborating testimony from a witness.
“How [do I] prove to a judge in a civil harassment case [that] the defendant is mentally ill?”
If the plaintiff’s mental illness has been diagnosed or s/he is on doctor-prescribed medication for a mental condition, you may introduce this person’s medical history into evidence (which records would have to be obtained by subpoena). Otherwise you can testify to what you know about the plaintiff’s condition and offer what substantiation of aberrant behavior you can to support your defense. Restraining order deliberations are fast-food justice (appeals hearings are typically only minutes long). To do this well would probably require your obtaining legal counsel and moving for additional time from the court to prepare your case.
“How do I reply if I’m the defendant for a restraining order?”
There should be instructions on the injunction you were served. Otherwise check with your courthouse. And do whatever you have to do to secure the services of a qualified attorney. Consult this page for further details and a helpful link.
“How do I sue an ex-husband for false claims of abuse against my boyfriend?”
The complaint (lawsuit) would probably have to be filed by your boyfriend—unless you wanted to sue for injuries the false claims caused you. Ideally, you and/or he would want to employ an attorney. If you wanted to file a suit on your own, see this post.
“How do you communicate with someone who has [a restraining order] against you?
Indirectly and preferably through an attorney. Unless the restraining order specifies “no third-party contact” or “no third-party communication,” a mutual friend could speak on your behalf. The restraining order plaintiff could return to the courthouse and have the restraining order modified to forbid third-party contact, which would make even communication through a go-between a violation of the order. Until then, however, having someone speak for you wouldn’t strictly be a violation of the court’s order, which only forbids you from contacting or approaching the plaintiff.
“How [do you] get an order of protection dropped when the [district attorney] and judge won’t drop it at the protected party’s request?”
Your best course would be to consult an attorney. It may be possible to appeal the judge’s decision to a higher court. (Alternatively an attorney can assist you in expunging the order after its expiration.) See also the question above, “How can I drop a criminal restraining order?”
“How easy is it to get a restraining order…?”
As easy as walking and talking.
“How much does it cost to hire a lawyer if someone filed a restraining order against you…?”
A standard retainer is $500. For this a lawyer will review your case. Total fees to litigate it may run from $2,500 to $5,000.
“How to get protection from someone who keeps violating a PFA?”
Your question gets at the restraining order process’s dirty secret: a civil injunction is a piece of paper, and if a volatile/violent defendant has no respect for this document, it’s all but worthless. Unless you’re prepared to physically defend yourself (or hire a bodyguard), you’d do well to consider moving yourself out of harm’s reach, that is, relocating and keeping your new address private. You would want to change your phone number, too, obviously.
“I am the defendant in an order of protection. Can I ask for more time to collect my evidence?”
The worst that can happen is that you’re refused. To request more time, you’d want to go to the courthouse and file a motion for continuance (that is, a motion to be granted an extension/postponement). Explain what you’re after to the clerk. Having your case number handy will expedite things.
“I have a restraining order against me? Can a lawyer go for me?”
A lawyer can accompany and represent you. The court requires your presence at the hearing, however.
“I have a restraining order against me. If I ‘like’ a picture, is that still communication?”
Legally, maybe/maybe not, but since “liking” an image on Facebook does communicate both a feeling and your presence as an observer, it’s an ill-advised action. A defendant’s “liking” an image on the plaintiff’s Facebook page confirms that the defendant is monitoring the plaintiff, which, according to the climate of hysteria that prevails today, may well suggest “cyberstalking” to a judge (especially if the plaintiff or his or her attorney uses that word). Defendants have landed in hot water for sending flowers, butt-dialing plaintiffs, or, in one instance that gained media attention, because Google sent an automated email. The conceit of the restraining order process is that plaintiffs apply for restraining orders because they’re afraid for their safety. A judge, according to this conceit, may well interpret your action in the most sinister light possible, that is, as a taunt or as a reminder that you’re “still out there…watching.”
“I have a restraining order against my ex, but my children were canceled to be protected. Why?”
Evidently because the court held that whatever your grounds were for applying for the order didn’t apply to the children or legitimate their father’s being denied parental visitation rights.
“I have a restraining order in West Virginia. Does it count in Maryland?”
If you’re the defendant and you’re asking whether you would still have to observe the court’s order even if you moved, the answer is yes. For example, if you were forbidden to call or write to the restraining order plaintiff in one state, you would still be forbidden to do so even if you relocated. If you’re the restraining order plaintiff, the situation is more complicated, because the addresses you provided to the court in your former jurisdiction—that is, the places where the defendant is forbidden to go—will have changed.
“I have a restraining order on my ex. Can I still talk to his mum?”
You’re free to speak to whomever you like. Restraining orders’ restraints only apply to the actions of their defendants.
“I have an order of protection that was vacated. Does it need to be expunged?”
It’s possible. You’d think one would necessarily follow the other, but this isn’t necessarily the case. Courts get praises and federal subsidies for issuing restraining orders but nothing for revoking them. Clearing your record is in no one’s interest but yours. There are law firms that specialize in expungement, but start at the courthouse and see what you can find out or accomplish for free.
“I have no-contact orders in both criminal and civil court. Does one’s being dropped count for both courts?”
Probably not (separate cases, separate courts), though the dismissal of one case may support a motion or appeal to have the other case vacated (voided).
“I just turned 18 and want to remove my name from a restraining order my mom put on my boyfriend. How do I do that?”
Go to the courthouse that issued the restraining order and apply with the clerk (file a motion) to see a judge and have the restraining order modified or vacated (canceled).
“I made false allegations to obtain a PPO. What do I do?”
If the court order is still in effect, the ethical thing would be to return to the courthouse and have it vacated (canceled). You’re at no risk of punishment from the court (though I wouldn’t recommend that you inform the court you lied but just say you changed your mind). If you’re concerned that the defendant in the case will sue you for abuse of process, you could either call and apologize and offer to make amends, or you could postpone having the order rescinded, obtain the counsel of an attorney, and have the attorney broker an agreement with the defendant so that his or her feathers are smoothed before you have the order withdrawn. If the expense of hiring a lawyer is beyond consideration, you could have a third party (a mutual friend, for example) call the defendant and explain you’ve reconsidered. You always assume some risk when you commit perjury, but chances are the defendant will be relieved to have the matter concluded.
“I need a restraining order on someone. Do I have to put my home address on it?”
Very likely you’ll need to provide this information to the court, yes, but you may request that it not appear on the restraining order itself (that is, that it be withheld from the defendant). Often, if not typically, there are public and private components of restraining order applications. Express your concerns to the court. Keeping your home address private shouldn’t be a problem.
“I received a letter from an attorney in New York threatening me with a protective order. I live in Missouri. Whom do I complain to?”
It would depend on the allegations the attorney was making. If the attorney is writing to you on behalf of a client, ceasing contact with that person (the client) would be a good idea (if practical). Hopefully the matter would go no further. If the attorney has mistaken you for someone else, inform him or her of the mistake. If s/he’s harassing you for no reason, you can request that the s/he leave you alone. If the lawyer persisted without justification, you could apply for a restraining order against him or her alleging that you’ve been harassed and distressed (that is, take your complaint to the court). You could also register a complaint with the New York Bar Association or call the law firm the attorney is employed at. If you have an attorney yourself, make him or her aware of the situation and obtain his or her counsel (which would probably be to let the situation pacify itself). If you’re being harassed and threatened baselessly, you can also call your local police precinct and file a report and ask that an officer call the lawyer for you. Whether or how you act should really be based on what truth there is to the attorney’s allegations against you. You don’t want to inflame the situation pointlessly.
“I want to dismiss a protective order. Can the respondent sign a contract to leave me alone?”
This is a question best posed to an attorney. The probable difficulty would be in making such a contract legally binding. You might consider consulting a professional arbiter/mediator, someone who specializes in “alternative dispute resolution” (ADR).
“I want to take out a PPO on my mother. Can I if I’m a minor?”
Possibly, but you’d have to be represented by an adult, that is, an adult may be able to obtain one from the court on your behalf. Have an adult (preferably a guardian) accompany you to see a judge.
“[I was] found innocent of stalking, but my ex-boyfriend is still accusing me…. Can I sue for this?”
If the basis of your ex-boyfriend’s prosecution was malicious or fraudulent, certainly. Counts (torts, civil wrongs) that you alleged in such a suit might include abuse of process/malicious prosecution, defamation of character, fraud (in misrepresenting you to the court for the purpose of misleading a judge), and intentional infliction of emotional distress.
“I’m getting harassed by someone phoning and knocking on [my] door. What should I do?”
Keep a log of this conduct (or construct one) for reference or substantiation of the harassment in case you should need it. If you tell the person repeatedly to leave you alone and s/he persists anyway, you can apply to the court for a restraining order (assuming this person has no legitimate excuse for bothering you). Before taking this step, however, which can have have enduring consequences not just on the other person’s life but on yours, too, consider informing the person of your intention if s/he continues to bug you and waiting to see if that suffices to resolve the nuisance.
“If a girl has a restraining order on a guy, can you talk to him about her?”
Yes. Restraining orders are matters of public record and don’t forbid anyone from talking about anything. To avoid the possibility of exciting further allegations from the girl, however (for example, of harassment), it would be wisest to communicate in person or through a private medium. A protracted conversation on Facebook about a restraining order case wouldn’t necessarily be a violation of the restraining order—which only prohibits the guy from talking to the girl—but it might provoke the girl to cause the guy more legal grief. Though they often serve this purpose—and are often intended to serve this purpose—restraining orders are not gag orders.
“If a judge [dismisses] a protective order as frivolous, can the petitioner apply for an new one?”
Absurdly, yes. Some people are serial abusers. And some serial abusers go so far as to apply for multiple restraining orders against the same defendant in different jurisdictions (and they get them, too). Some readers have reported having spouses (exes, etc.) repeatedly file and then drop restraining orders against them. Because restraining orders are usually free and easy to obtain, they’re excellent both as tools of harassment (or taunting) and as a means to forcefully and continually re-exert one’s presence on the subject of a personal fixation: “You thought you were rid of me? Think again!”
“If a [restraining order] is vacated nunc pro tunc, does it still exist in the records?”
By definition, vacation (of judgment) means “the setting aside of a judgment on grounds that it was issued by mistake, inadvertence, surprise, excusable neglect or fraud” (Black’s Law Dictionary). The case should be expunged. Some respondents to this blog, however, have reported being hamstrung by vacated restraining orders (that is, ones that were ultimately found to be baseless). The court should be able to tell you whether record of the case remains publicly accessible. If so, take action.
“If I apply for a restraining order, and it is denied and then I get hurt, can I sue the court?”
You may have grounds to sue the judge, yes, which is why restraining orders are commonly awarded on a better-safe-than-sorry basis. It isn’t just protectiveness toward plaintiffs that biases judges but self-protection, as well, which is among the reasons justice in this process is inherently compromised.
“If I file [an] order of protection and leave [the] state, is it still valid?”
Yes. For the term of its effectiveness, it’s valid in both the state where it was petitioned and in all others where you register it. This policy is called “full faith and credit.”
“If I gave my wife’s sister a baby diaper, is that breaking the no-contact [order]?”
Strictly speaking, if the sister isn’t the plaintiff, no. Some orders may prohibit defendants from “harassing” family members of the plaintiff. The gift of a diaper wouldn’t seem to constitute harassment, but if your wife is the plaintiff, there’s no telling how a judge might rule if she represented your contact with her sister as “untoward” or “unwelcomed,” etc. (Pretend you’re a judge and consider how this claim sounds: “He’s been sneaking around, contacting members of my family, and trying to turn them against me.”)
“If I have a restraining order against me, do police check?”
If the police ran your records, the restraining order would pop up, yes.
“If I have a restraining order against my husband, can I have it modified?”
Yes. You just need to return to the courthouse.
“If I have never had a domestic violence case, and the person applying for a restraining order states there never was any abuse, will a judge grant a restraining order?”
Conceivably, yes. A plaintiff’s simply stating, “I’m afraid,” may very literally be all the more basis for issuing a restraining order that a judge requires.
“If I haven’t been served for a protection injunction, and the person wants to drop the order, what do they do?”
Irrespective of whether you’re served with the order or not, the plaintiff may voluntarily withdraw it by returning to the court where it was petitioned and requesting that it be vacated.
“If I made a false report to get a restraining order, can I be charged four years later?”
If you lied under oath about a material fact to obtain a restraining order, you’ll be vulnerable to prosecution for perjury for the term of the statute. Perjury is a felony crime, the statute of limitation for which is seven years.
“If I put a restraining order against someone, can I still talk on the phone with them?”
A restraining order application may allow you to indicate that communication by phone is acceptable. In my state, there are a series of tick boxes to specify what forms of contact, if any, are okay with the applicant (for example, email, phone, or post). If you’ve previously indicated otherwise on an existing order, you may return to the courthouse and modify it to permit phone conversation.
“If I put a restraining order [on] someone, and we both violate it, who’s in trouble more?
The party who may be subject to arrest is the defendant. A restraining order doesn’t explicitly restrict the actions of its plaintiff; it’s presumed that you wouldn’t have wasted the court’s time and taxpayers’ money by applying for a restraining order you didn’t intend to honor.
“If I put a restraining order on the person living in my house, do they have to leave immediately?”
As soon as s/he is served with the order, yes.
“If I represent myself, do I have the right to question my accuser?” / “During [a] protection from stalking hearing, can [the] plaintiff be interviewed?”
Yes. You may present your question to the judge, and s/he will ask it of the plaintiff. See also this post. I recommend you get an attorney, though, if at all possible.
“If I’m under oath, can I be sued for slander?”
Substantiation of an allegation of slander requires proof that the defendant lied. Truthful statements, no matter how unkind, don’t qualify as slander.
“If I’ve been served a restraining order, do I have to appear in court?”
If you want to contest the justice of the court’s order, yes. If you don’t appear in court, you’ll forfeit your opportunity to appeal the restraining order.
“If my restraining order is dropped, can I see my kids?”
If you’re asking as the defendant, your visitation rights would presumably be restored if the restraining order were vacated, yes, because it would be as if it had never been issued. If possible, though, consult with a family attorney. If you’re asking as the plaintiff, you won’t lose visitation rights consequent to your restraining order’s being vacated, per se, but if the order was malicious, it’s conceivable that the defendant could instigate a reciprocal legal action of his or her own against you.
“If my sister has a restraining order against her husband, am I still able to speak to him?”
Of course. Your actions are only limited by a restraining order if you’re the defendant on that order. An injunction against someone else in no way pertains to you.
“If my [temporary restraining order] gets dismissed, can I turn around and get one against my spouse?
Yes, assuming you could persuade a judge you needed one. You could in fact apply for a restraining order even if the restraining order against you is upheld, though in some states restrictions apply to obtaining a reciprocal restraining order (in which case you would have to be very insistent).
“If my wife has a restraining order, can she still email me mean stuff?”
Having a restraining order against you doesn’t mean you have to tolerate abuse from its plaintiff. You can report this misconduct to the police and ask them to call your wife and ask her to stop, or you can save the emails, print them out, and apply with the court for a restraining order against her, alleging harassment. Keep a dated log of all acts of abuse to present to a judge. This blog has gotten a number of inquiries that suggest restraining order plaintiffs believe that because they’ve obtained injunctions against others, they can harass (or even assault) these people with impunity. This isn’t the case. Restraining order defendants have the same entitlement to legal protections that anyone else has.
“If restraining orders are vacated, does it mean malicious prosecution?”
Most states permit tort actions for the malicious institution of civil actions like restraining orders. For a fully fleshed definition of malicious prosecution, consult Black’s Law Dictionary, which is the standard legal reference: “One who takes an active part in the initiation, continuation or procurement of civil proceedings against another is subject to liability to the other for wrongful civil proceedings if: (a) he acts without probable cause, and primarily for a purpose other than that of securing the proper adjudication of the claim in which the proceedings are based, and (b) except when they are ex parte, the proceedings have terminated in favor of the person against whom they are brought.” Abuse of process/malicious prosecution are sister torts. One or the other would likely apply (“A malicious abuse of legal process occurs where the party employs it for some unlawful object, not the purpose which it is intended by the law to effect; in other words a perversion of it”). See your state’s definitions of malicious prosecution and abuse of process to confirm applicability to your case.
“If someone calls me a bitch [in a] text, can I press charges on that person?”
You can sue someone for defamation, that is, publicly lying about you in a damaging way. But calling someone a name isn’t against the law, and being called a name isn’t grounds for prosecution. A basis for legal action (against harassment) would be someone’s routinely shouting insults at you or texting insults after your repeatedly telling him or her to leave you alone.
“If someone drops a restraining order, what happens?”
The case is vacated, and the injunction is null and void. The defendant should nevertheless endeavor to ensure that traces of it are removed from his/her record. A restraining order can only be “dropped” by the court.
“If someone has a restraining order against me, can I write about it?”
Yes. A restraining order forbids you from contacting or approaching the order’s applicant (the plaintiff in the case) on pain of police arrest. It does not, however, abrogate your constitutional entitlement to free speech. Restraining orders are matters of public record.
“If someone has a restraining order against you, and they get locked up for violating a restraining order, is theirs still active against you?”
Yes (though you’d have to work pretty hard to violate it in that case). A restraining order can only be vacated (deactivated, canceled) by an act of the court.
“If someone has a restraining order [against you] and they walk into the same bar as you do, do you have to leave?”
Consult the order issued against you to see what actions/locations are forbidden. Sometimes a defendant is ordered to keep a specific distance from the plaintiff at all times (x number of blocks, for example). In any case, avoiding the plaintiff would clearly be a good idea.
“If someone has a restraining order against you, can you write a letter to the media complaining about how you were treated?”
Certainly. A restraining order only places restrictions on your actions vis-à-vis its plaintiff; it doesn’t deny you your constitutional right to free speech. You can speak about the plaintiff (reasonably and truthfully) and/or about the case s/he brought against you and how you were treated by the court; you just can’t speak to the plaintiff. Restraining orders, their prosecution, and how they’re ruled on are matters of public record. Obtain the transcript or audio recording of your hearing(s) from the courthouse for your reference and/or a journalist’s.
“If someone loses a restraining order, does the plaintiff need to pay the defendant’s lawyer’s fees?”
That would seem to be a just requirement, but no, you’d have to sue to recover your costs—or have your lawyer request compensation from the plaintiff in lieu of filing a lawsuit (in lieu of means instead of). To recover a few thousand dollars, you could litigate in small claims court yourself. Request damages for lost time and emotional distress, also.
“If the accuser doesn’t show up in a PFA court, do the charges get dropped?”
Typically in such a case, the restraining order is dismissed for “failure to prosecute,” yes.
“If the charges are dismissed, is the protection order also terminated?”
If that were the case, you would probably have been informed at the hearing. Endeavor to find out from the court. File a motion at the courthouse to see a judge if necessary.
“If the police put a restraining order against your boyfriend, and you break it, will they take [your] son away?”
It’s possible that the police would report you to Child Protective Services if they learned that your boyfriend was visiting or staying at your home in violation of a restraining order.
“If there’s a false restraining order against someone I know, should I inform the police?”
Informing the police of a fraudulent restraining order wouldn’t affect its validity, because it issued from the court, and only the court can vacate it. You could, though, offer to give testimony at the defendant’s appeals hearing (or in a civil suit alleging fraud) or provide him or her with an affidavit (a sworn, written statement) corroborating the falsehood of the plaintiff’s claims.
“If there is a restraining order against me, but the plaintiff dies, does the restraining order get canceled?”
No, it’s unlikely the court will even know. Inquire with an attorney or the court to see if this is grounds to have the order vacated.
“If you are the defendant in a domestic violence criminal case, and charges are dismissed, can you sue for false allegations? If so, what is the minimum I can sue for?”
You certainly could sue, yes. Applicable torts might include fraud, defamation of character, and intentional infliction of emotional distress. The maximum you could litigate for would likely depend on the jurisdiction and venue in which the case was tried. If you’re asking, for example, if you could sue for $100,000, the answer is yes. Whether a judge or jury would conclude that the degree of your suffering deserves such remuneration would depend on the nature and extent of your injuries and losses and your ability to substantiate them.
“If you don’t get served, does that mean you don’t get a restraining order?”
For a restraining order to enter effect, it must be served on the defendant.
“If you have a restraining order against someone and decide to move back in, does that nullify the order?”
Not in the eyes of the law. You need to inform the court that you’ve changed your mind and have the order vacated.
“If you have a temporary restraining order, are you allowed to move?”
Yes. If you’re the defendant on the order, though, you have to mind whatever restrictions have been placed on your coming near the plaintiff. You’re going to excite friction, obviously, if you move in next door or just up the street.
“If you have an order of protection, can you travel?”
Of course. A restraining order is a civil injunction barring you from certain actions toward a specific person; you’re not on probation. To understand what restrictions have been placed on your activities, consult the order you were issued. These restrictions are usually limited to contacting or approaching the plaintiff (or going to his or her place of residence and work and/or study). This law firm, however, reports a protection order could be an impediment to travel:
“If you invite your spouse over, does it nullify your PPO?”
No, but you should.
“If you needed a hard copy of a protection-from-abuse order, whom would you contact?”
You would go to the courthouse that issued the order. You might be charged a photocopy fee.
“If you put a restraining order against someone and then change your mind about it, can you stop it?”
Yes. You can have the order vacated with no repercussions by returning to the courthouse.
“If you’re defending an ex parte order, can you serve the plaintiff with divorce papers?”
The restraining order shouldn’t prohibit you from serving legal documents on its petitioner. If in doubt, consult the order itself for confirmation of this. If still in doubt, don’t hesitate to check with the courthouse.
“If you took out a temporary restraining order, do you have to show up?” / “What happens if the plaintiff doesn’t show up for a temporary restraining order hearing?” / “What can happen to me if I don’t show up for a court date, [and] I am the plaintiff…?” / “Whoever filed a harassment charge against me—would they have to show up in court?” / “Will a warrant go out for your arrest if you applied for an extension for a TPO against someone but don’t show up for the hearing?” / “Does the plaintiff have to show up for a restraining order hearing?”
The consequence of a plaintiff’s/petitioner’s not appearing for a hearing to finalize (or extend) a civil restraining order would likely be its being dismissed/vacated for “failure to prosecute.” In other words, the petition would be tossed out. It isn’t always required, however, that plaintiffs represented by attorneys appear at hearings, for example, when domestic violence is alleged. Whether this is only true in criminal restraining order cases—when restraining orders are issued in conjunction with criminal trials—I’m not certain. To the best of my knowledge, plaintiffs who fail to prosecute (don’t show) are not sanctioned/penalized by the court; their requests are just denied. Defendants who don’t appear for hearings to finalize civil restraining orders forfeit their opportunity to challenge the allegations against them. Default judgments in favor of the plaintiffs will be entered—unless the plaintiffs don’t show, either.
“In an order of protection hearing, can you be charged with attorney fees?”
Only your own attorney’s fees (assuming you hired representation). If the opposing party employed counsel, that was his or her choice, and s/he would be responsible for the costs.
“In order for me to sue someone, do I have to press charges?”
No. Charges are allegations of criminal violations. You may press charges, for example, if someone punches you. Lawsuits are civil actions. Allegations you make in a lawsuit are torts (civil wrongs), though you can sue someone for criminal misconduct.
“Is a false restraining order grounds for libel?”
If the plaintiff in the case made false public allegations that maligned your name and respectability, then yes. To sue for libel/defamation of character, you would have to prove that the plaintiff lied about you in a damaging way. The statute of limitation for libel/defamation is usually one year, so you would want to pursue legal action promptly.
“Is a ‘friend request’ a violation of protection order?”
If you’re asking as a defendant, possibly. Consult the order you were issued, and see if all contact (including mail and email) is forbidden. If you’re asking as a plaintiff, the answer is the same; but taxpayer money would probably be better spent if you just denied or ignored the request.
“Is a narcissist capable of slashing his own tires and blaming it on his ex-girlfriend?”
Lying that’s both cunning and dramatic is certainly associated with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD), though social manipulation more commonly typifies the frauds of narcissists than their actually dirtying their hands. Any motivated liar, however, is capable of a simple frame-up like this.
“Is [a] protection order a felony, and does it come if [the] judge dismisses it?”
A restraining order is a civil misdemeanor. A dismissed restraining order should be vacated and expunged from your record. You should confirm that it is, though. Some respondents to this blog have reported being denied employment because of vacated restraining orders (ones, that is, that were ultimately found to be baseless). Apparently the vacated orders remained publicly accessible.
“Is a restraining order a form of control for a narcissist?”
Yes, absolutely—of control, domination, intimidation, assertion of superiority, revenge, etc. These are textbook urges for someone with narcissistic personality disorder.
“Is a restraining order still in effect…if both persons on the order have sex with each other?”
Yes. Only the court can vacate (cancel) a restraining order. Consensual relations or cohabitation is still recognized legally as a violation of the court’s order, and places the defendant in jeopardy of arrest. Unless the restraining order was petitioned by the DA, however, the plaintiff can go to the courthouse and move to have the restraining order lifted (vacated).
“Is a restraining order valid if the birthday is wrong…?”
Yes, most likely. If you were served with a restraining order, you were served with a restraining order. Basing an appeal on a minor factual error like this is unlikely to lead to a restraining order’s being vacated (canceled). If you pointed out this mistake, the court would probably just correct it.
“[Is a wife] permitted to request a restraining order on behalf of her husband?”
Only if her husband is incompetent to request the restraining order himself (because of mental or physical disability, for example).
“Is attacking my attorney a violation of [a] restraining order?”
Only if the attorney is the plaintiff on that order.
“Is calling a family member to contact the plaintiff for money a violation?”
Possibly. You’d want to determine whether the restraining order against you forbids “third-party contact.” Oftentimes this isn’t formally forbidden but can be later upon the plaintiff’s returning to the court to have the injunction modified. Another consideration would be what sort of response you expected to get, that is, if the restraining order was malicious, it’s unlikely you’re going to get a favorable answer, and the plaintiff could use the request to complicate your life further and make you look even worse to the court. A family member could make the request on your behalf. Where you might run into trouble is if the family member were put on the spot and testified that you asked him/her to make it.
“Is filing a bogus PPO harassment?”
Clearly. If you’re asking if you can press charges, no.
“Is following someone on Twitter a violation of a protection order?”
What activities constitute a violation of a court order will be specified on that order. Following someone on Twitter is clearly an act of monitoring, which could be construed by the court as violating the spirit of the order. Somebody who’s forbidden all contact with the plaintiff on a court order should cease all relations, even passive ones, to avoid running afoul of the law.
“Is it a violation of a restraining order if I add my ex’s brother on Facebook?”
No, not unless the restraining order explicitly prohibits you from communicating with the brother (for example, because he’s a minor dependent in his sister’s care). Restraining orders don’t extend to third parties even if those third parties are mutual friends or are related to plaintiffs. Exercise caution, though, if the brother is a minor and his parents might object to his talking with you, because his parents could petition a restraining order against you, too, possibly just on the grounds that they’re apprehensive of you or whatever. Also think twice about asking the brother to speak to his sister on your behalf, because she could return to the court and allege that you’re trying to sneak around the restraining order’s proscriptions.
“Is it hard for a plaintiff to get a restraining order vacated?”
A plaintiff, no. A plaintiff may have a restraining order vacated at any time while it’s in effect—or s/he can cooperate with the defendant in having it vacated after its expiration by filing a nunc pro tunc motion. For a defendant to get a restraining order vacated, it’s very hard.
“Is it illegal to leave the state if you have a restraining order?”
No. All that’s required by the law is that you mind the restraining order’s prohibitions wherever you go. It would still be illegal, for instance, to contact the plaintiff if the order forbid you to even if you traveled or moved to another state.
“Is it lawful to let someone live with you [whom] you have a restraining order against?”
It’s unlawful for someone to live with you whom you have a restraining order against. The defendant is the one who may be arrested. If you have children, and you’ve invited someone you swore a restraining out against to live with you, you may put yourself at risk of interference by Child Protective Services if the police were to discover the arrangement or, for example, if a neighbor reported it. If you’ve reconsidered the restraining order, you may return to the court and request that it be vacated.
“Is it legal to write a check after a restraining order?”
It’s unclear to me what your concern is. What activities a restraining order forbids you from engaging in will be specified on the order. Even sending a check to the restraining order’s plaintiff may well be against the law. However, writing a check for your groceries, for example, wouldn’t be. If you’re asking because your checking account is one you share with the plaintiff, you’d do best to check with an attorney or the court to find out what entitlement you have to joint monies.
“Is libel a violation of [an] order of protection?”
Not per se. Libel is a civil tort that may be litigated in a lawsuit.
“Is my speaking to my wife’s lawyer a violation of a protection order?”
No, unless specifications on the protection order say otherwise, you can talk to anyone you want to aside from the restraining order plaintiff. You would want to avoid her attorney’s being able to construe what you said to him as an attempt to convey a message to her, though. In other words, don’t ask him to be your go-between. This wouldn’t necessarily be a violation of the restraining order, per se, but it might prompt your wife to have the injunction modified to forbid third-party contact (that is, communication with her through a third party). You could, of course, have your own lawyer speak to your wife about any legal action you are considering—though this is most commonly done by mail.
“Is perjury on a restraining order a felony?”
Yes. Lying in court or in any sworn statement is perjury, which is a felony crime—though it’s one that’s rarely prosecuted and only in cases of social prominence.
“Is posting photos online a violation of a restraining order?”
Not per se. Restraining orders specify what activities are forbidden to their defendants. The typical forbidden activities are approaching or contacting the orders’ plaintiffs.
“Is restraining order extension automatic?”
Typically, no, an extension must be applied for (though laws and protocols vary from state to state). It would be nice to say, besides, that some substantive grounds would have to exist for an extension’s being awarded, but one may be approved on the allegation of continued or renewed apprehension, which may be credited by the court on no more ascertainable a basis than the plaintiff’s say-so.
“Is sending a friend request on Facebook breaking a restraining order?”
If the plaintiff of the order has requested that all contact be forbidden, then yes. Consult the specifics of the order you were issued. The police don’t weigh the harm or harmlessness of a violation, they just slap the cuffs on.
“Is suing someone a violation of a restraining order?”
No, a restraining order is not an impediment to pursuing a civil action against the plaintiff. See the response above to the question, “Can you still sue someone if you have a restraining order against you?” See other related responses for torts that will likely apply to your case.
“Is the defendant in violation of [an] order or protection for ‘third party contact’ if it is not written in a full order of protection?”
What actions an injunction enjoins a defendant from engaging in should be specified on the court’s order. For third-party contact to be in violation of a court order, the defendant would have to have been informed that such contact was forbidden. If a plaintiff objects to third-party contact, typically the court will modify the order accordingly and inform the defendant of the modification.
“Is there any punishment for filing a false restraining order?”
None. Lying on an affidavit to the court (or in any sworn testimony) is perjury, a felony crime. The statute is seldom enforced, however, and only then in cases of public prominence.
“Is there any way to file defamation charges against someone who makes false statements in a restraining order?”
Yes. Sue for damages. Defamation is a civil tort with a one-year statute of limitation.
“It was self-defense. How does he get a restraining order on me?”
Restraining order applications are approved based on the persuasive quality of a plaintiff’s presentation to the judge (or sometimes simply on his or her filling out the form correctly). This interview is a five- or 10-minute screen test, not a diligent weighing of verifiable facts.
“Just because I told a wife her husband was having an affair, is that grounds for a restraining order?”
Not per se. Legitimate grounds for a restraining order might be your repeatedly contacting the wife after she asked you not to. In practice, though, restraining orders may be issued on no legitimate grounds at all or on the basis of skewed or fabricated evidence. If you were the person the husband was having an affair with, there would be ample motive for the wife to paint you in a false light to the court (that is, to get payback).
“Must you report to [your] employer about [a] restraining order?”
Unless doing so is court-ordered or the terms of your employment contract dictate otherwise, you’re under no compulsion to inform your employer. A restraining order equates to a civil misdemeanor; being issued one doesn’t mean you have a criminal record.
“My boyfriend’s ex-wife said I harassed her, and she was a granted a six-month do-not-harass order. Does this prevent me from being around his son?”
Not per se. Unless the boy is also included on the order, your spending time with him isn’t off-limits that I know of. You’d just have to take care that you observed the restraints prescribed by the court’s order to the letter, that is, that you didn’t contact or come within a certain distance of the ex-wife, for example. If the ex-wife has full custody, of course, then she can prevent the boy’s seeing you. Surely your boyfriend can find out whether his ex-wife objects to your being around their son. If she does, you’d do well to let things settle out for the duration of the injunction. If the ex-wife is acting jealously/vindictively, she can rain all manner of hell on you and your boyfriend through the courts or Child Protective Services. These bureaucratic systems are easily abused and can turn lives upside down.
“My ex has lied to obtain a protection order against me. What do I need to prove he has made up the accusations?”
You need to go before a judge and appeal the injunction, of course—ideally with a lawyer by your side. Bend heaven and earth to acquire an attorney’s help. Once something like this sticks, it stays stuck, and you don’t want this gnawing away at you for years to come. (Also, having a protection order in place against you will make you very vulnerable to anything your ex may do or to any further lies he may concoct in the future.) You need to create a reasonable doubt in the judge’s mind. If you have concrete evidence that your ex has lied, by all means bring it to the judge’s attention. If not, you need to convincingly demonstrate that he had an ulterior motive for lying about you (to shut you up, for example, or spitefully injure you or gain sole possession of something you would otherwise have a mutual claim to). In these cases—notwithstanding court rhetoric to the contrary—the burden is on the defendant. If your ex has claimed you’re dangerous, persuade the judge you’re not. See also this post for a basic defense orientation. The rule of thumb is speak to the charges and explain why they’re false.
“My ex-girlfriend has an order of protection against me, and three months later she stopped by my house and we talked then she got upset and hit me. Can I get her arrested, or will I get in trouble for letting her in my house?”
I would imagine if she voluntarily came to your house, your letting her in couldn’t be construed as a violation of the restraining order. It’s your house. But if you were seriously injured and you can prove this and want to press charges, you should consult with an attorney before racing off to the police station. Also you’d need documentation of the injury (photos and a medical diagnosis).
“My ex-wife has filed for three orders of protection that have been dismissed. Can I sue her for harassment?”
Consult with an attorney. You can always file a suit yourself, and you can certainly allege harassment, infliction of suffering, loss of time and money, etc. An attorney, though, can best advise you on how to arrest this kind of misconduct.
“My ex-wife is dating someone [who] has a PPO. Can I stop my children from being around him?”
If you’re legitimately worried for the welfare of your children, you could inform Child Protective Services of the restraining order against your ex-wife’s boyfriend and express your concerns. Activating this bureaucratic machine may have repercussions, though, that you should weigh in advance. Both CPS and restraining orders are notoriously abused (and easily abused). I mention this, because there’s no telling how your wife might respond (that is, what allegations she might turn around and make against you in retaliation). You might also have grounds for seeking sole custody. If it’s within your means, consult with a family attorney.
“My girlfriend filed a restraining order. Can I get her medical records?”
Consult with an attorney. Medical records are confidential, but there may be grounds for moving the court to require that they be produced (if, for example, your girlfriend had a documented mental condition that would discredit her allegations). According to Law and the Physician: A Practical Guide by Edward P. Richards and Katharine C. Rathbun: “In general, a person’s medical records may be used in court if that person’s medical condition is at issue.” You can file a discovery request (request for production) or a subpoena to try to obtain these records, but it’s possible that the plaintiff or her physician(s) would refuse to comply on the grounds that these records are privileged.
“My injunction provision…stated that I can talk to my abuser on the phone. Can I email or text instead?”
You’re not going to get in trouble for doing so, but the defendant could be placed in violation of the order if s/he responded. Since you’re effectively calling the shots, there shouldn’t be any complication if you return to the court and modify your restraining order to explicitly allow these forms of communication. The court will notify the defendant of the modification.
“My kids and my wife are in a shelter. She filed in court for a TPO and a divorce. What shall I do?”
Apply for a hearing to appeal the restraining order, and get an attorney post haste.
“My son and I, we have an injunction for domestic violence against [his] father, and he violated our injunction. What law was broken?”
If your ex-husband/ex-boyfriend violated the terms of the injunction, you would simply report the violation to the police, who would determine what additional crimes, if any, the defendant committed.
“My wife has a TPO against me. Can my mom talk to her?”
Unless “third-party contact” or “third-party communication” is prohibited by the order, yes. If it is prohibited, your mom couldn’t be your go-between. Your mother’s not constrained in any way by your restraining order (nor is anyone else). She can’t get in trouble. But you could be charged with violating the order if third-party contact is forbidden and what your mother had to say could be construed as coming from you (and your wife complained about it). If third-party contact isn’t forbidden, it’s still possible that your wife could apply to the court for a revision of your order disallowing third-party contact if she asserts that you put your mom up to talking with her. Unless or until your wife opted to do that, though, your mom’s talking to her would be fine. Also, your mom could just say it was her idea. Obviously if your wife refuses to talk to her, your mother should honor that and not risk your wife’s applying for a restraining order against her, too. It’s often the case that when someone learns how easily this process can be (ab)used, he or she (ab)uses it repeatedly.
“Nine years ago I got a protection order falsely. Can I get it expunged…?”
There are two ways this may be possible. If you can obtain the cooperation of the petitioner (the plaintiff in the case), you can jointly file a nunc pro tunc motion through the court to have the order vacated. You would need the help of a qualified attorney. Alternatively a law firm in your city or another city in your state that specializes in records expungement may be able to clear your record for you. The ability to exercise this option depends on the laws in your particular state (in my state, Arizona, nothing ever goes away without the cooperation of the plaintiff: once it sticks, it’s stuck). Try a Google search using the terms restraining order* + expungement + your city and/or state. You should be able to call or email, explain your situation, and find out whether the firm can assist you.
“Perjury and false restraining orders—what to do?”
Militate for the prosecution of perjurers and for legislative reform. Bring your case to the attention of the press, and call or write your local lawmakers.
Stop False Allegations of Domestic Violence
“Restraining order: I need text message records. [What to do?]”
You could file a discovery request (request for production) or subpoena the records, but the other party could easily delete them from his or her phone if s/he hasn’t already. It’s possible that you could subpoena the records from the service provider (cell phone company) if it retains these records. Consult an attorney if feasible.
“Should I move if I have a restraining order against me?”
There’s no way to run from a restraining order against you. It’s super-glued to your public record and will follow you wherever you go. You would also still be subject to the limitations it imposes on your actions even if you relocated to another state.
“Someone filed an injunction against me [whom] I have not seen in three years, and I live in a different state. [What do I do?]”
Appeal the order. For someone to file against you from another state, s/he would have to establish repeated contacts (by phone, for example, or mail or email). If you haven’t approached or communicated with the defendant despite that person’s repeatedly asking you not to within the previous 12 months, there’s no legitimate grounds for a restraining order.
“Someone has opened a peace order against me. If I still have pictures of them taken from my phone, can that be used against me in court?”
If you’re asking whether it’s illegal for you to have pictures of the plaintiff, no, it isn’t (presuming, of course, that they were taken before the peace order was issued). If you’re asking whether the court can compel you to produce photographs you have that may somehow incriminate you, possibly. That is, it’s not a crime for you to have photographs, but if the pictures, for example, showed you engaged in a crime (or proved that you had photographed the plaintiff after being ordered to keep a certain distance from him or her), they could be used against you, I suppose.
“Someone I know is using my address and phone number, and I’m getting calls for her from the court and a warrant [that’s been put] out for her. How can I stop her from using my address and phone number?”
Ask her not to would be the obvious course. If she’s nowhere to be found, though, there’s not much you can do to arrest this, because requesting that the police warn her off would only work if they had a means to call her or track her down. Same goes with alleging harassment to the court (and the grounds would be thin, besides). The proactive solution, if you don’t have a way to reach her, might be to contact both the court and the police, and inform them that they have the wrong address/phone number and that you don’t want to be bothered further with a matter that has nothing to do with you. Impress upon them that you have the right to be left alone and that they’re infringing upon your privacy and causing you distress. If you wanted, you could also provide them with the most recent address/phone number you have for the person or let them know who they might contact to find her.
“The girl who put a restraining order on me messaged me on Facebook. What should I do?”
Save the message and make a hard copy in case you need it in future (take a screen shot—and save it, too). If you choose to respond to it, your doing so could put you at risk of arrest. You’d be wiser having a third party intermediate if you think there’s a chance of your resolving differences. She can have the restraining order vacated if she chooses. Just take care that you’re not baited into landing yourself in jail. Also be aware that “thirty-party communication” may be expressly prohibited by the order. If so, even talking through a friend would be a violation, and your only risk-free option would be mediation through an attorney.
“What are acceptable reasons for requesting to drop a PFA?”
If you’re the plaintiff, you can simply say you acted rashly, have changed your mind, etc. If you’re the defendant, grounds for requesting that a restraining order be vacated may be that it’s unnecessary and/or that the plaintiff acted impulsively in the heat of a dispute, that the plaintiff has exaggerated his or her allegations, that these allegations are maliciously false, etc.
“What can I do if my ex-girlfriend is putting my son’s picture on her Facebook [page] without my permission?”
If you object, ask her not to.
“What can I do if someone got a restraining order on me, and I’m in fear [for] my life?”
Someone’s having a restraining order against you doesn’t mean you can’t report his or her misconduct to the police or apply to the court for a restraining order of your own against the plaintiff of the one against you. Other respondents to this blog have reported having restraining orders issued against them by plaintiffs who were violent abusers or stalkers. Restraining orders are excellent tools of domination and provide their plaintiffs with a sense of impunity (a sense that they can get away with anything). One commenter to this page assumed that having a restraining order against another person meant she could assault him or her if she felt like it and have the other person arrested if s/he fought back. Though it’s often the purpose they serve, restraining orders aren’t supposed to be a license to terrorize or abuse.
“What can you do if someone files a false injunction on you?”
Apply for an appeals hearing, and retain the services of an attorney. See also this post.
“What can you do with text messages that show someone is going to beat someone else up?”
Priority one, ethically, should be to inform the potential victim of the danger. Threatening messages could be reported to the police and/or possibly used as grounds for applying for a restraining order.
“[What do you do] when protective orders don’t work?”
If the situation is dire, clear out. Relocate to ensure your safety. Put as much distance between you and your abuser as possible. Change your name if necessary. Keep your home address private, and don’t give away your location on Facebook or the like. If you’re legitimately in danger, a piece of paper is worthless. See also Gavin de Becker’s book The Gift of Fear.
“What do you do when your wife lies to get a temporary injunction for protection from violence?”
Appeal. Act promptly. And get an attorney. Depending on the outcome, you might also consider suing for damages later (assuming you divorced).
“What does ‘case terminated’ mean in an order of protection case?”
In all likelihood, it means the case was vacated (canceled, nullified, voided). If you’re the defendant in the case, though, you should endeavor to make sure of this and to see that traces of the order are removed from your public record (that is, expunged).
“What does ‘Have you ever been the subject of a restraining order?’ mean?”
The questioner (an employer, I’m guessing) is asking whether you’ve ever had a restraining order issued against you.
“What does ‘interfere with plaintiff’ mean on a restraining order?”
A restraining order forbids its defendant (that is, its recipient) from interfering with its plaintiff (that is, its applicant). If you’re the recipient of a restraining order, you must not contact or approach its applicant. Plaintiff means the person who has complained to the court about you.
“What does it mean that my restraining order has been vacated?”
That means it has been nullified, canceled. If you’re the defendant on the order, though, make doubly sure that this is the case before undertaking any action that would qualify as a violation of the order.
“What evidence can I submit when contesting a restraining order?”
Anything you think would be relevant: records or other documents, prescriptions, photographs, statements from witnesses, etc.
“What grounds do you need to file [a] motion on [a] restraining order against you?”
None. You have the right to request an appeal and respond to allegations made against you.
“What happens if I talk to someone whom I have a restraining order against?”
Depending on the circumstances, you may place him or her in violation of the order and subject to arrest. Communicate through a third party or an attorney, or visit the courthouse and have the order quashed if you feel you acted rashly.
“What happens if I violate my protective order under a civil case?”
If you’re the applicant, nothing, though you’ll compromise your credibility in any further legal actions that may arise. If you’re the recipient of the order, you’ll be subject to arrest.
“What happens if my sister used my phone to text a girl who had a restraining order against me?”
The police may come knocking. Consult an attorney (usually free) and see what s/he advises. Or have your sister call the girl and fess up.
“What happens if someone has a restraining order against you, and they pass by your house?”
Unless the restraining order plaintiff trespassed (and was caught at it), nothing. Any number of visitors to this blog report that they’re phoned, emailed, or texted by the people who swore out restraining orders against them. Many report, besides, that these people show up at their homes or work. At least one respondent to the blog reports being not only stalked but assaulted.
“What happens if [the] accused party does not show up in court for [a] restraining order?”
Unless the hearing is postponed, the defendant will lose his or her opportunity to defend.
“What happens if the victim falsely accused the person of violating a protective order?”
See above: What happens if my sister used my phone to text a girl who had a restraining order against me?”
“What happens when a temporary restraining order does not become final?”
A temporary order must be served within a specified period of time (contingent on state law), or it expires and becomes null. This doesn’t prohibit the petitioner from reapplying and initiating the process all over again, however. It doesn’t necessarily mean the temporary order has no lasting consequences, either. In Massachusetts, for example, even to have been accused of domestic violence on an application for a temporary order that was approved by a judge means the defendant’s name is entered into a domestic violence registry (indefinitely). The only reasons an order wouldn’t be finalized are (1) it was never served on the defendant, (2) the court found for the defendant in an appeals hearing and dismissed the case, or (3) the plaintiff defaulted by not appearing for a scheduled follow-up hearing, and the order was vacated.
“What happens when I’m sued for a false protection order?”
Justice, hopefully. If you feel repentant, see if the person suing you would agree to drop the complaint if you cooperated in clearing his or her record and made amends. Obviously, getting an attorney would be a good idea. If the protection order is still in effect, you can voluntarily have it vacated at the courthouse. If it has expired, you and your victim can cooperatively have the order vacated by having an attorney file a nunc pro tunc motion (sort of a legal reset).
“What happens when someone lies to obtain a restraining order?”
Too often he or she succeeds. Apply for an appeals hearing, and get an attorney. Do whatever it takes.
“What happens when someone tries to fight a protection order?”
Often they’re driven to the conclusion that resistance is futile. If the grounds for the restraining order are false, however, my opinion is resist anyway.
“What if I change my mind about a protection order?”
You may return to the courthouse and ask (file a motion) to have it vacated (canceled).
“What if no one is home when police try to serve a restraining order?”
Typically a notice will be left for the defendant requesting that s/he call to arrange for service.
“What if you don’t answer the door to receive a temporary restraining order?”
It’s possible that a warrant will be issued for your arrest (consult the notice left by the officer), and avoidance of service will just prompt the law to get more creative. You don’t want a constable serving you at work. My advice is accept the inevitable, and appeal the order in court—ideally with an attorney by your side.
“What is it called when someone gets a restraining order against you but doesn’t need it?”
That would depend on the circumstances. The prosecution may just be “frivolous” (that is, without sound or urgent justification, for example, “He’s always rude to me!”). Or it might constitute abuse of process/malicious prosecution if the applicant’s intent in obtaining a restraining order was different from what s/he claimed it was. Restraining orders may be sought out of spite or vengeance, for example.
“What is it called when you can’t afford to sue someone?”
That’s called screwed. If you mean when you sue without an attorney (that is, when you represent yourself in a lawsuit), the answer is pro se. Where an attorney’s name would appear on your document captions, you would write instead “(Your name), pro se.” Pro se is Latin for “on one’s own behalf.”
“What is the charge for making up false police reports in order to send someone to jail…?”
This is called false reporting. In my state, it’s a misdemeanor crime with a two-year statute of limitation.
“What is the due process for a restraining order…?”
Due process doesn’t apply to restraining orders. You’re guilty unless proven innocent. Restraining orders are issued ex parte, that is, based solely on the testimony of your accuser. You may appeal, but if you don’t, the court doesn’t care.
“[What is] the penalty for lying on a restraining order?”
Zippo.
“What is third-party communication in a restraining order?”
“Third-party communication” refers to communication with the plaintiff in a restraining order case through another person (that is, a person not involved). An example of “third-party communication” would be the defendant’s asking a mutual friend or family member to convey a message to the plaintiff (whom the defendant is forbidden to communicate with directly). If the court has ordered “no third-party communication,” this means the use of a go-between is likewise forbidden. In other words, a restraining order defendant who is enjoined not to communicate with the plaintiff via a third party cannot ask another person to speak to the restraining order plaintiff on his or her behalf. The only authorized communication would then be through an attorney or through the courts pursuant to a legal action, such as a lawsuit.
“What is the typical punishment for lying to get a protection order…?”
Success.
“What legal actions can I take if a neighbor has a restraining order against me but is using it as a weapon by calling the police [and] putting in false reports?”
The least demanding countermeasure would be your applying for a restraining order against your neighbor alleging harassment. If you consult your state’s harassment statute (Google your state + harassment laws), you’re likely to find that it recognizes the filing of false allegations with authorities to constitute harassment. Harassment, in turn, is grounds for procurement of a restraining order. Convincing the court that false allegations are abusive is always a challenge, because its tendency is to discount the effects of lies and to acknowledge laws selectively or preferentially. So you’d have to be insistent and persuasive. Your state, furthermore, may disallow so-called “cross-petitions” or “mutual orders.” See this post. Although you may not be able to piggyback your application on your accuser’s case, it’s possible to obtain an order against your accuser by filing a separate application (that is, by opening a separate case). You could also file a lawsuit, but this is a major undertaking and very taxing. It’s also best accomplished with an attorney’s representation and so can be very expensive. A final alternative would be to move. (The passive approach, hiring an attorney to send a menacing letter, could work, but such a letter is basically toothless. If the addressee blows it off, you might be out a couple of thousand dollars, and you’d be left with tolerating the abuse or pursuing one of the options enumerated above.)
“What reason do I need to file a restraining order on my wife?”
Some jurisdictions would require you to allege you fear her (that is, that she poses a threat to your person or your children). In others, it may be sufficient to allege, for example, that your wife is terrorizing you and/or your children (that is, subjecting you to psychological abuse). Violent behavior, tantrums, threats—all of these might be valid grounds.
“What recourse do you have against false statements on a restraining order?”
Appeal immediately. Instructions or a hearing date will be included with the restraining order you were served. Obtain the counsel of an attorney at all costs. Also consult this post for orientation. The odds are against the defendant in this process—guilty or innocent. The presence of an attorney can at least negate the handicap and level the playing field. If your appeal fails (or succeeds), you might also consider litigating toward a settlement (or for damages). If you decide to sue, do it right away. The statutes of limitation for some torts you may wish to allege are brief (e.g., one year for defamation). You may have court documents delivered or served on the plaintiff of a restraining order even if the injunction is in effect.
“What to do if you are wrongly accused of assault, and a lawsuit is filed?”
If you’ve been served with a lawsuit, retain the services of an attorney. Do whatever you have to do. An attorney may be able to arrest the suit before it can proceed. And protect your assets against whatever may come. You can also countersue, either through an attorney or by representing yourself (pro se). See this post for instructions.
“What to do if [you] think someone might file a restraining order [against you]?”
The wisest course would probably be to sever contact with that person and let things settle. After a few months of no contact, the grounds for that person’s seeking a restraining order will have lost their urgency. If you’re dealing with someone who’s unreasonable or who’s out to get you (or who will be even angrier if you ignore him/her), then you’d do well to prepare for the inevitable and begin planning your defense. In any case, this is a person you’d do well to shun. See also:
“What are the Warning Signs of an Impending False Allegation?”
“The Fake Fight – What’s She Doing?”
“What to do when a judge denies you the right to defend yourself against an injunction?”
The best course would be to consult with an attorney. If you applied for an appeals hearing on time, it’s unlawful for the court to deny you the opportunity to contest allegations made against you. Appeal your case to the Superior Court and report the misconduct of the lower court judge to your state’s Commission on Judicial Conduct.
“What to do when someone continuously accuses you of harassment and abuse?”
Consult with an attorney (consultations are usually free), and see what you can do to get this person off your back. Sometimes a well-phrased letter under an attorney’s letterhead can work magic.
“[What to do] when the person who gets the restraining order keeps calling the person they got it on…?”
You may be able to persuade the person to quash the restraining order. He or she can do this at the courthouse. It just takes a signature. To protect yourself, make the invitation through a third party, preferably an attorney. DO NOT call or otherwise initiate contact with the restraining order applicant. This will make you subject to arrest. Alternatively, you could always apply for a mutual no-contact order and explain to the judge what’s going on.
“What type of person does a sociopathic narcissist target?”
Ones he or she perceives to be manipulable and tolerant of abuse.
“What was the legislative intent of having the petitioner sign under oath in a civil TRO…?”
The intent was to dissuade petitioners from making false allegations—to make liars think twice, in other words. Having petitioners sign under oath is a purely rhetorical gesture, though. Statutes making perjury a felony crime are paper tigers. Frauds and liars are never prosecuted.
“What’s the purpose of a fake restraining order?”
There are many. Here are some: to spitefully subject the defendant to public humiliation and/or to ruin him or her personally or professionally (petty revenge), to gain custody of children or possession of property from a domestic partner, to terminate an illicit relationship (or gag an extramarital friend or lover so s/he feels intimidated and can’t speak to your spouse), to lame or discredit a romantic or business rival (exes’ new spouses or love interests are popular targets), to gain power or leverage over someone (stalkers have obtained restraining orders against their victims), or simply to get attention. False criminal allegations are difficult to substantiate, usually require you to give testimony before a jury, and can backfire if you get caught making them and possibly land you in jail. By contrast, the burden of proof on a civil restraining order petitioner is minimal to none (“I’m afraid!” sometimes suffices), the inconvenience is minor (a few minutes with a judge in a closed chamber), and perjury—if it’s detected at all—is generally winked at and never prosecuted. See also this page.
“When can you sue for malicious prosecution over a restraining order?”
The sooner the better. A restraining order is not an obstacle to your pursuing legal action against the plaintiff. Because some torts you may wish to allege have a brief statute of limitation (one year for defamation, for example), you want to act promptly. If you litigate on your own behalf, remember to observe the constraints placed upon you by the restraining order. You may mail your complaint and summons to the plaintiff after you’ve filed with the court, but don’t make this an occasion for sending any form of personal message (you may also have these documents served by a process server or local law officer). Once you’ve obtained confirmation that these documents have been received by the plaintiff, your communications (briefs) will be addressed to the court (though you’ll mail copies to the defendant or his/her attorney).
“When does the trial begin in a restraining order matter?”
The issuance of a restraining order is itself effectively a verdict (“guilty”). In some jurisdictions, if a restraining order recipient doesn’t explicitly request an appeals hearing, there’s no follow-up. Consult the order you were issued to see if a hearing date has been assigned or whether you have to request one by calling, writing, or visiting the courthouse. And don’t hesitate to request (file a motion for) a continuance if you need more time to prepare.
“When fighting a restraining order, can the accuser bring in a notarized statement [from] someone who knows about the case?”
Absolutely. It’s up to the judge whether s/he admits this exhibit into evidence, but there’d have to be a good reason for his or her refusing you. If you wanted to formalize this statement, you would find a template online for an affidavit to the court you’re defending in and type your witness’s statement onto it. Here’s a generic online example (for others, Google example witness affidavit). Then just accompany the witness to see a notary public. The services of a notary at a bank you have an account at are typically free. There’s nothing to this. A notary won’t swear anyone in or scrutinize credentials. S/he’ll smile, ask for a driver’s license, sign and date the form you hand him or her and apply his or her stamp. Ten minutes tops. The notary is unlikely to even read the form you hand him or her, so make sure s/he puts his or her name and signature in the right places.
“When going to court for a restraining order, don’t both people have to be there?”
Yes. I’ve heard of restraining order defendants accused of violating restraining orders being represented by attorneys and not appearing in court themselves, but in a restraining order appeal, a judge will want to see a defendant for him- or herself, and defendants have the constitutional right to face their accusers, the satisfaction of which expectations necessitates the presence of both parties at a hearing (though either or both may be accompanied by legal counsel). Sometimes allegers of domestic violence may be excused from hearings, which is unfair but probably rationalized as sparing the “victim” further trauma.
“Who can call on a person who has a criminal restraining [order] against them?”
Anybody. An injunction restricts the actions of its recipient (defendant). It doesn’t restrict anyone else’s actions.
“Whose record does a restraining order go on?”
Both the plaintiff’s and defendant’s names will be linked to a restraining order record (which may not be accessible to the general public). The person whose record will be affected by a restraining order is the defendant; the defendant bears the stigma.
“Why can’t the accused get a copy of the application for a protective order?”
You should have been served a copy. If you mean the plaintiff’s affidavit, this is part of the game. If you persistently apply at the courthouse—don’t take no for an answer—the records clerk should agree to give you a copy with some information redacted (like the applicant’s address). If this doesn’t work, an attorney can obtain the affidavit for you, which is essential to your defense.
“Why can’t the person with the order of protection get in trouble for contacting you?” / “Why doesn’t a restraining order affect the plaintiff?”
The legitimacy of the restraining order process is faith-based. Just as a church congregation agrees to collectively hold a certain set of beliefs to be true so does the legal system agree to perceive restraining order applicants as honest, earnest, and “for real.” It’s not that religious people can’t detect contradictions between everyday life and church doctrine, and it’s not that judges, for example, don’t know that restraining order petitioners lie; it’s that uncertainties aren’t openly acknowledged, because that would call the validity of the whole system into question. So the party line is that defendants (the “bad guys”) are the ones who need to be restrained from contacting plaintiffs (the “victims”). Remember that lawmakers (who have no exposure to how their laws are implemented—or how they’re abused) are the ones who make the rules. Police officers and judges simply follow and enforce those rules. They may know better than legislators what really goes down, but their discretion is limited, and they have a vested interest (job security) in maintaining the status quo. Put simply, restraining orders don’t affect their plaintiffs, because why would plaintiffs (wink, wink) have any motive to harass, intimidate, stalk, or persecute defendants?
“Why did my spouse appeal a protective order?”
More than likely because s/he didn’t want the label of abusive wife/husband on his/her public record. Would you?
“Why do sociopaths file restraining orders?”
Sociopaths (or psychopaths—these terms are used interchangeably, and the distinction isn’t hard and fast) are social eels, sliding along through the currents of life. A defining trait of people with antisocial or narcissistic personality disorder is a disregard (even contempt) for the feelings of others. What conscience sociopaths may have remains arrested at a preadolescent stage. They look out for number one and see other people as objects (tools), not subjects. Glib lying being second nature to them, sociopaths can easily obtain restraining orders, which are unparalleled tools of manipulation, exploitation, intimidation, and revenge.
“When does an order of protection expire?”
The typical duration of a restraining order is one calendar year, but durations can vary. A restraining order may even be permanent (“non-expiring”). Consult the order you were issued. And don’t hesitate to call or go to the courthouse that issued the order and ask the clerk or a judge to clarify its limitations. A justice of the peace (JP) is as much your JP as s/he is the restraining order plaintiff’s.
“Why would a husband want a wife to drop a restraining order?” / “Why would a man contest a protective order against him?”
List the reasons why a wife would want a husband to drop a restraining order or why a woman wouldn’t want a restraining order on her public record, and you’ll have your answer.
“Why would a narcissist put a restraining order on you?”
To be hurtful and to have all eyes focused on him or her. Narcissists exult in exercising power over others, and they have pathological urges for attention and vengeance. See also this page and this post (also this one). Here are some short essays on the subject of narcissistic malice by Dr. Linda Martinez-Lewi:
“Narcissistic Vengeance Has No Boundaries”
“Narcissists Hold Deep Grudges” (dead link)
“Narcissists—Don’t Expect Formal Justice or Punishment”
“Malicious Narcissists—Convincing Others You Are at Fault or Crazy”
“Sociopathic Narcissists—Relentlessly Cruel”
“Narcissistic Relationship Cycle: Use, Abuse, Dispose”
“Narcissist’s Cycles of Revenge” (dead link)
“Why would a policeman take statements from witnesses if a person was not pressing charges. What if I do not want to press charges?”
The police and judges have been trained to react “heroically” when they perceive that a woman has been abused. If you don’t want to press charges, refuse. And don’t sign anything. Also, consult with an attorney (usually free), because once this process is initiated, it can carom out of control.
“Will a prosecutor file criminal charges if a petitioner dismisses a civil protective order?”
I can’t imagine what grounds would exist for prosecuting you for withdrawing a protection order you petitioned, no. If the restraining order was based on false allegations (that is, if you committed perjury), don’t offer that fact as your explanation for requesting/moving that it be vacated (dismissed). Even if you were to cop to making false allegations, however, it’s unlikely that you’d be prosecuted.
“Will I get arrested for not showing up to court for [a] restraining order injunction?”
That probably depends on whether you’ve been ordered to appear or whether you’ve simply been provided with an opportunity to defend. Don’t hesitate to inquire with the courthouse or to request more time to prepare if you need it.
“Will I go to jail for a restraining order against me from a minor?”
Irrespective of the age of the plaintiff on the order, if you violate the order’s prohibitions (for example, by approaching the plaintiff), and the police are notified, you may be arrested, yes. Police detention doesn’t necessarily follow from the issuance of a restraining order, though. Receiving a restraining order, in other words, doesn’t by itself mean you face incarceration. It just means you’re “on notice” for the period the order remains in effect.
“Will looking at someone’s Facebook [page] violate a protective order?”
No, not unless this act has been forbidden by the court. And I don’t see why it would be. Consult the order you were issued by the court to see what limits have been imposed on your activities. Communication via Facebook most likely is forbidden.
“Will police arrest me for violating an injunction against harassment…?”
Yes. Don’t.
“Will the defendant be notified if the petitioner cancels a protection order before the hearing?”
Possibly, but I wouldn’t count on it.
“Will the judge let me get my stuff from the house if I have a restraining order?”
Typically, no. You leave with the shirt on your back and nothing else. Check your state’s statutes, though, by Googling restraining order statutes + your state. Your state’s laws may allow you to return to your residence to pick up some essentials in the company of a police officer.
“Will the person know I filed a restraining order on them if it was denied?”
In some jurisdictions, at least, the defendant is informed, yes.
“With a [protection order], what is the distance a person has to stay away?”
Consult the order you were issued. If you’re still uncertain, don’t hesitate to inquire at the courthouse.
“With a restraining order, can I keep the defendant on my Facebook?”
Sure. And why wouldn’t you want to?
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I have a restraining order against me from a Social Worker. She claims that I have left threatening phone calls in 2008. Also a few other threats that are false. But she has always talked with me and told me to call her for a safety contract. I never left threatening messages. She stated in her R.O. that the voice was mine and verified by the police. I never got a visit from police. Talked to the Chief of police and he said there are no charges the report is just there. However, I did write her a letter in 2008 telling her she had bad work ethics and that she looked fat. Okay that may have been my bad, but there were never any threats. She states she has the letter, but no mention of the calls ( does she have to have evidence of calls?)plus, the officer who took the report is not a cop anymore can he be a liable witness? When I went to the PD the police officer who took the report stated that she never told him those things. I have a witness to all her complaints. Seems she is trying to not allow me to go to the hosp for treatment as I have health issues. I have ER records that state I have always been cooperative. What brought this to a boiling point is that August this yr, my witness and I had a meeting with the CEO ( who is now gone) and the risk management and her. She was late for the meeting, used the phone during the meeting and when I was telling my hosp experience she rolled up in a ball and started crying. I got up and left with my son. She said you want to bring up the past what about the letter? I told her, I’ll see the police about it. Three days later she went down and filed a Restraining order. Claiming I have defamed her reputation. I don’t think she has the correct license either. I have filed complaints to the Board of counseling and she is saying that is harassment. Yes, I have Bipolar. But I have no record of violence, ever or have ever been arrested. When in the ER awaiting to go to a psy hosp I started having heart problems, the doctor would not address, so it was not just about her. Not to mention she asked for my anxiety medication the nurse laughed. My witness was there. What are my chances of winning?
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Chances of defendants prevailing in these hearings is always iffy, especially when there are specific allegations, the plaintiffs are female, and the defendants are male. If it’s possible for you to obtain legal counsel, doing so would be wise. You sound very lucid to me and hardly “scary,” but a little hysterical embellishment by a defendant, and judges will conclude you are what they want you to be, that is, what fits the rulings they prefer to make.
Get any character references it’s possible for you to, get a basic defense orientation from posts here, and get an attorney if at all possible. Best wishes.
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Had court today, but they cancelled because of the floods. No one notified us. I assume the courts will send a letter to reschedule. The Social worker showed up and looked pretty bad. She was hugging all the bailiffs. Kinda like I am a ‘victim’ here. Anyway, if it is a ten day ( Temporary R.O ) and it has already been a month. I am thinking she may have to refile or it may give her time to think about her lies. It gives me more time to get character letters. I can’t afford an attorney and she did not seem to have one either.
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I am a female and so is the Social worker. I would think that would or could be an equal way the judge might see it.
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Yeah, being a woman is always an advantage. It doesn’t mean you won’t get screwed, but judges are a lot likelier to take allegations of danger and threat seriously when they’re made against a man.
Here’s a good tutorial by an attorney who specializes in restraining order defense. The important part is toward the end:
“Fighting False Restraining Orders” by Gregory Hession.
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The court was cancelled Tuesday. I called today to see if it was going to be rescheduled. The lady said it the Temporary Restraining Order has to be “amended”. She said, I would have to be served again. I am thinking the whole process has to be done all over. She filed on the 20th of August, court was September 17th ( plus she got her 10 day) and now it’s like up in the air. I see this in my favor. It’s almost been a month and I have yet to see a judge. Gotta say who is the god of water? (kidding) What does amended mean?
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Amended here means updated. Glad to hear you caught a break. Take full advantage of it and try to assemble the best defense you can. The courts often don’t appreciate the seriousness of these orders on the minds and lives of their recipients and don’t deliberate a great deal about their fairness.
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Today I found out that the woman working @ the hospital has no degree to work in a Mental Health capacity. This seems to be turning around here. Is it not fraud when someone claims to be this or that but has no license, by which to do it? This is why that woman got so mad because, I questioned her qualifications. I am going to use this information in court. Because, in away she has been getting paid and no degree. What do you think? The CEO that is already gone told me and my witness that, her certificates are looked at each 2 yrs. He did not tell the truth. No one knows what this woman title is. So we have a Interim CEO and I heard their are people getting fired for not being licensed. How dishonest. Court is the 3rd!
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This information may be of value to your defense. Remember, though, to orient your presentation to the judge around whatever you’ve been accused of. That’s what you’ll be judged for. Even if the plaintiff were Hitler reincarnated. So you’d have to figure out how to use this information. If you can make the case that this woman was mad because you questioned her credentials, that might fly, especially in respect to her allegation that you “defamed” her. Please, please bear in mind, however, that judges are disposed to believe plaintiffs, and this person could make an allegation of harassment stick, and that’s all she needs. That’s what you’re going to have to attack. The judge may not care whether the woman is a fraud, because that’s not what s/he’s been tasked with judging.
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So I have a bit of an odd question – we have a case where one of the plantiffs on a restraining order is unknown to the target of said order (my husband). The whole situation is complicated, but the short version is that the original plantiffs lied to this person and said they knew that he was responsible for some anonymous stuff. Now the order is telling him to stay away from this woman who apparently lives near us, but we don’t have any idea who she is or what she looks like. I’m terrified that he’ll end up in jail for violating the order by accident. We were forced to accept the order to prevent further legal harassment, so there’s no way to get rid of it. Is there any way to get some further identifying information on this person so we don’t have a problem?
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That’s really bizarre. First, unless your state’s rules diverge widely from the norm, a restraining order should only have a single plaintiff. Other adult plaintiffs should be required to get separate orders. Second, the order you’re asking about makes no sense whatever, and you should appeal it to a higher court. How in the world are you supposed to observe a no-contact restriction if you have no idea who you’re supposed to avoid?! Find your state’s rules of civil procedure, and look up Rule 50. There may be grounds to move the court to find this order void or to move for a new trial. What I would recommend you do is call some attorneys, and explain this situation and find out if they can help or what you should do (or if this is legal). Talking with an attorney (or 10) isn’t a commitment to pay them anything. Accordingly how much they tell you for free will be very limited but should at least give you some leads to investigate. This sounds hellish, and I’m really sorry for you guys.
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Got back from the sunny south the other night, feels good to be near home. Court date is 9-16 so will stay away from my property until after. Lawyer says he’ll ask for a continuance so I suspect my neighbor will still claim false accusations until we get before a judge. He feels confident that he can win this case, since the sheriffs investigation is not what led to my arrest. Hope you are having good luck with your situation. Can’t wait to see how my flowers fared in my absence. Maybe I’ll start planting rocks!
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Good luck, Mary! You sound well. I wish I could tell you that people like this succumb to fatigue, but malice is better than Energizer batteries!
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I just successfully won a protective order hearing against me today. Much thanks to the officer who suggested I begin recording our conversations. That coupled with texts, the 911 call, phone records and pics, I made it a fairly easy argument for my attorney. I never realized until now how weighted the system is against the accused, men in particular, but my attorney feels I have a very strong case against my ex for malicious prosecution. Basically, we broke up because she decided to sleep with a man who works for her. I have her on tape agreeing numerous times to leave the house. Then she filed the PO…I had to leave and find a new place to live and, in the process, she damaged/kept a lot of my stuff but at least I will possibly recoup some of the losses. The process really is a joke.
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It’s good to hear that justice sometimes prevails. Even if only a little and very belatedly. Best wishes going forward, Mike, and let me know how the prosecution goes.
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Well, the good news is… the order was dropped. Bad news, the counselor won her main mission: My daughter can no longer attend her own church because that was the condition. The sad part is, she has so many “church’ friends from this contemporary church and she doesn’t know how to tell them she’ll never be back. It was her strength and her main support. She’s devastated. We,as her parents, know, it’s a small price, but it’s like being banished from your family with no chance to explain or say goodbye. I feel so bad for her and I worry about her, as this was such an important part of her life.
On the up end, she HANDLED that attorney like no other! He came in and made a few condescending comments, trying to intimidate her and she quoted the Hippa laws to him word for word, asked how he had any information about her, etc etc. Mr. “attorney for the counseling practice (about 70 years old) stuttered and backtracked. She is so smart and so strong, although through tears, she stood up. She asked if he knew that they had been stalking her? If he was aware that they would pass her, backtrack and come back again? If he knew that she was terrified, unable to drive after pulling over when they had looped around to follow her? She asked if that was what he would consider “prudent, professional behavior…to terrorize and stalk a 20 year old patient, 2 on 1 (with the husband)? If he was aware she had an entire team that saw her leave a baseball game in fear when THEY walked in 20 minutes after her? If he knew that the college community was aware they had followed her repeatedly and that several people had seen the husband stare her down for 20 minutes at a time, while she was mingling with her friends after church? Was he aware that the counselor had fabricated events (as she showed him a map with the counselors account of what happened, proving that was impossible, according to her account?) My daughter pulled out her “chart” of events, again , showing false statements? The attorney was speechless and kept trying to come back to some irrelevant point.
My daughter ending with “Why don’t you ask this “professional” who works for the company you represent why she would invite a client into a church, make personal connections for her there, encourage her participation, then cry “stalking” after SHE facilitated and encouraged a personal relationship outside of the practice (again, she showed a chart with a list of conversations, witnesses and actions the counselor engaged in that were of a personal, everyday relationship in the church type of thing. She asked if she was so afraid, why didn’t she contact my parents and express concern , when she had been doing so weekly throughout their sessions??
I was so proud of her. She ended by stating to the attorney, if she and her husband continue to stalk me, harass me, show up where I am, I will file THIS (had the protective order application in her hands) in a second and I will share with the entire church community and professional community what they are doing to keep others safe.
Stepping back to the beginning….When we arrived, the clerk told us no one has an attorney, we are at day 10 already (4 days after my daughter was served) so there can’t be a continuance. My daughter filed the continuance anyway , with us and told the clerk, if they show up with an attorney, I will file this protective order and an appeal. Im pretty sure a professional counselor with a protective order on file is going to have a bit more concern for HER future, than I am.
When the counselor came in with hubby and 2 attorneys, the Magistrate RAN to them , heard her say “I don’t think you want to do this…She has a protective order ready to file on both of your clients and it looks like she has good reason to do so” That’s when the tables turned.
I feel like we could have gone ahead with it and won the case for my daughter staying in that church and as much as she has a right to, we just feared that doing so would ultimately put her in harm’s way. They could be so vengeful as to fabricate more issues, which we’ve seen they didn’t hesitate to do before , then it’s a “he said, she said” and she may not be so fortunate the next time.
What a nightmare. Send happy thoughts and prayers to our daughter. She is so smart, so strong and so damned sweet…this is her downfall. I guess this was a horrible life lesson…don’t trust too much, don’t do so much for others, don’t care so much….ultimately, that is what got her in trouble and the travesty of all of this is, those are the very qualities that make everyone love her. I hope karma steps in, as immature as that may seem, and causes these people to suffer just a tenth of what she has. How could an adult, in that business, do something so personally cruel? All I can guess is that she is suffering in ways we don’t know…and in the course of a lifetime, my daughter is stronger than this, or will become stronger than this …and this experience will serve her in the future or enable her to help someone else in a way she may not have been able to without this experience.
You have been a Godsend with your forum and your advice. I’m sure sometimes you think you are writing and spending countless hours on this for little of nothing. If nothing else, you gave me the confidence and the knowledge to share with my daughter to resolve this in a way that although, unfair and very painful for her, preserved her RIGHT to go after that job she deserves, serve in her community and be FREE. Thank you again. Words simply aren’t enough!!
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I’m sorry your victory couldn’t have been a complete one, K., but your perspectives are wise and probably dead on. Fighting people like this can be like punching a tar baby: you never get free. Better, I think, if your daughter completes her degree and moves on. She sounds lovely, and you’re right that there are people who are resentful and jealous of people like her and exploit them, because they know they can do it safely. I used to be more like her. Now I often feel like I’m pantomiming someone I don’t identify with much anymore. This search engine query brought someone here recently: “the sociopath is making me the victim mentally sick.” People who lie and persist in abusive misrepresentation for their own warped gratification can shred the fiber of your being. There’s probably a licensing commission that you could report this counselor’s conduct to, but I agree with you that your daughter’s sanity and golden qualities are best protected by letting this die away.
Lies offend something very primal in all of us. Something I’ve found, though, is that even though they’re devastatingly effective in the short-term and can undo their victims, they seldom have a lot of staying power. Hysterics and attention-seekers like this counselor eventually betray how pathetic they are. Their desperation to sustain a drama starts to show.
I’m really glad anything I’ve said gave you a shot in the arm. And you guys are real heroes. Tell your daughter she’s on the side of the angels, and they know it.
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Do you know/have any suggestion as to how I go about getting access to the house to get the rest of my stuff? I had to move because of the PO but I’m still on the lease.
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There’s no obstacle to your returning yourself now, is there? Maybe check with your attorney and figure out how best to do this. I’d recommend taking a witness or two along if you go to the house yourself.
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I’m a woman and going through a nasty divorce. Arrested for the sixth time this past Saturday for a violation of the RO against me. Mind you I am currently battling cancer. He had a rookie cop write up a statement on his behalf that the violation happened almost four months ago and the warrant was issued this past Saturday. We were just in court for our divorce trial hearing twelve days prior to that date, and he was angry that the Judge denied his motion , yet granted my attorney’s request for a continuance. The next hearing for the final decree is April 11th. Seems retaliatory to me. Even the magistrate was scratching her head on the time lapse and I was let go on my own recognize. I am so happy that the judicial system worked in your favor. That is how it is suppose to work. I think maybe its how prepared you are and your behavior in these situations. I believe why so many people get screwed is because they let their anger and emotions get the best of them and they try to get back instead of keeping their composure and stick to factual evidence. Judges do see through people who use their courts to abuse the other party for personal gain and malicious intent. My advice is do nothing, stay calm and focused. We are not lawyers, so the judges don’t expect us to know everything. If you know you are innocent or made an honest mistake the judges will see. The problem with all the blogs I read is anger is apparent. Yes, we have a right to be, but get it out in your home or somewhere private. Get it out of your system so when you have your day in court you remain respectful and humble. Remember it’s your chance to explain what happened, that is why the Judge is there. They don’t care about the respondent or plaintiff.
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Thanks again for your help. I’ve kept this poor 20 year old up until 3:45 am preparing for this “hearing.” We’ve been over every detail; gone through the “petitioner’s” statement sentence by sentence and responded to each account. My daughter has a mind like a steel trap and we had dates, exact times, people who were there to support her account, and more. She made a detailed map (color coded) of the two times this lady asserted she was being followed and caught her in an outright lie, using the map and the timeline to show that her statements were contradictory and in fact, the counselor had looped around and come back to follow my daughter!!!! TWICE. We also made a timeline with every week since the first coincidence in a restaurant. She detailed the exact conversation, noted the petitioner laughed and made similar comments back, waved at her, smiled, invited her to STAY after church for picnics my daughter didn’t intend to attend…We explained each situation (there were only 3, maybe 4 ) and , had times, quotes, supporting statements and witnesses. This is RIDICULOUS. We have a map of the small town showing that my daughter owns her own home there, the petitioner lives in the neighboring state! She has a business there, but that’s not her home, so why is she hanging around there after work hours? Why is she pulling off the side of the road when she sees my daughter pass on the highway , doubling around and parking waiting to see her? Why does she pull into areas where my daughter just left (like the sports complex) then have the nerve to make some comment about her “following HER”, when she is the one who doubled back after my daughter left practice and parked there??? BIZARRE.. We have 3 letters stating my daughters fun loving, calm, giving nature and that she is a popular girl that many look up to because she puts others first and has never demonstrated any odd , possessive, threatening or even mean behavior in all the years they’ve known her. Fingers crossed for her, it’s at 9 a.m. We are trying to get a continuance filed at 8 a. m. But, we as ready as humanly possible if not. This goes before a Magistrate, not a judge, so that is even more confusing. I’ll let you know the outcome. Thanks again for your help and support.
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You’re welcome, K. I hope to hear some good news from you.
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Thank you soooo much. My daughter tried to file a continuance Friday, but the clerk wasn’t in until 3 pm and the Magistrate had already left. I had my daughter pick up a continuance form anyway. We’ve completed it and will be at the courthouse at 8 am to file before the 9 am hearing. The clerk told us that it was probably of no use, as this was an “emergency” protection order hearing. My daughter kept telling us she was afraid “something was up” as this counselor and her husband left church, when my daughter came in last Sunday. I strongly believe there is something about the husband…he’s forcing this issue. There’s never been a threat, a mean glance, anything out of the ordinary from my daughter, as she was determined to be “normal” and not allow this to become awkward for either of them. That was so important to her.
I spoke with an attorney from our state and he told me how to prepare a case, quickly. He suggested a map of the area demonstrating that everything is within a few miles of everything else and that my daughter just bought a house in that state …it’s her home, next to her college and the counselor lives on the other side of the state line in another state, but her business in in the state my daughter resides and attends school in. He said to go down the list of places she and my daughter have seen each other, that the counselor listed on the order (3 or 4) and show on the map how my daughter in a few of these, had no other way to get to her athletic practice as there is one road in and out and she does so every day at that time, also, the same with the restaurants….they are almost ON campus. She’s been eating there for years. There are only 4 or 5 places to eat right there.
The 300 ft rule will almost make it impossible for her to go to classes if the counselor is at one of those restaurants!!!!!!
This is the craziest thing I’ve ever experienced. There is no consequence for the counselor and her husband who are basically terrorizing my daughter, trying to find a way to force her out of “their” church (which I believe is the big goal behind all of this, as 300 ft in the order , would prevent her from attending there.)
The attorney told me to go point by point, with each and every time, date location where they were together and ask “why wouldn’t my daughter be there? ” as they are within a mile of the school. She only has two people who are writing letters of character support for her and to state that she has been complaining about this women being everywhere she goes for months. She doesn’t want more friends involved as the entire situation is embarassing and this small town/college is prone to major gossip, which could have an even more devastating effect on her. So, some people who could be good witnesses about the fact that THEY took her to the same church before she ever knew the counselor attended that church, can’t be called as she is terrified they won’t want to be involved and the whole accusation will freak them out.
We did try to get an attorney from this state on Friday and his secretary assured us he would call back, we even FAXED the protective order forms )14 pages to him, but we’ve heard nothing. So, we will go to the hearing in the morning with a completed continuance form request. We also have the forms to file a protective order from my daughter to the counselor. Now , should they accept this, does that mean for example, if my daughter shows up in church first, then the counselor is not allowed to be there? That’s an important question, so I want to be prepared to discuss that. I don’t think this is what the counselor had in mind or expected and it may cause her to see that this is really ridiculous and perhaps she’ll reconsider as that situation is going to cause her to be in “harms way , as well, if SHE shows up where my daughter is….held to the same possibility of being arrested as my daughter, correct?”
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Good for you. That sounds like a solid plan. I’ve been through the ringer, and I read other peoples’ horror stories every week, so my faith that the complete reasonableness of what you plan to present to the court will see you though is less than 100%, but that really does sound solid. Just remember to state the obvious, because what you expect to be obvious to a judge won’t be. For example: “I don’t understand this person’s motives, Judge, but her allegations are false. My daughter has passed her on the road and encountered her randomly and said hi, but what NORMAL person would interpret that as threatening?”
Your church question is a funny one, and it underlines how ridiculous this stuff can become. Probably the two would have to work out something with the pastor or priest and get the judge’s agreement, too. Obviously if they could attend different services, that would be simplest. If attendance of this church is important to your daughter, and she hasn’t already talked to leaders there, she should. I’ve know many women of the kind I sense this counselor to be, and I know how prejudicial these court instruments are. This woman could poison the minds of church leaders in a few-minute conversation and have them looking at your daughter like she’s a murderer of puppies. There’s no more prejudicial phrase in the English language than “I had to get a restraining order against her.” You and I know this means nothing at all. Which means you and I know something that most people don’t, and that includes authorities and judges.
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And it’s really great you’re helping your daughter. The courts force defendants into social isolation (for the reason you mention: who wants to talk about something like this with people s/he knows, even people s/he knows well and who know him or her well?), and judges can make defendants feel like scolded children. Who can say how many defendants just crumple under the cruel scrutiny and the unjustified contempt they’re treated with?
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I recently had a protection order on my ex dismissed, after which we met to talk about it. And one of his crazy exgirlfriend’s saw us. She than began making threats that she was going to call the police. She hasn’t yet from what I’m aware. On the dismissal form it states that any person who attempts to enforce the dismissed order can be held in contemptive court. Would her calling the police and making a report on a order that’s no longer in effect fall under her enforcing it? Also is it considered a false report with her knowledge that it is no longer effective.?
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I think the contempt of court warning would apply to authorities or someone attempting a “citizen’s arrest.” If this woman knew the order was vacated/dismissed and intentionally lied to police officers to induce them to act in contempt of court, she would technically be liable for false reporting and maybe obstruction of justice and/or other offenses. How seriously any of this would be taken would probably depend on how much mayhem she succeeded in causing. I hope you dodge this bullet, Kay. Best wishes.
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Long story, but …my daughter’s counselor has filed a restraining order against her, as they live in a town of 2000 people and inevitably end up at the same restaurant (as there are about 5 there!!) or grocery store (3 of them) or department store (ONE) The counselor is completely paranoid, my daughter had the utmost respect for her, she was treated for depression, nothing weird or deranged. The counselor dropped her because they kept seeing each other (they ATTEND THE SAME CHURCH!, and have always sat one row away from one another) My daughter told me for weeks prior to being dropped that she was running into this lady often and it was creeping her out…”is she following me????” I sure don’t want her to think I’m stalking her, how do I handle it?” I told her to discuss it during her next session, but the counselor dropped her before then. It’s been 2 months, and my best guess is the husband of counselor is a domineering control freak and forced the counselor to file a restraining order. A lawyer in my state said that can’t be done for simply seeing someone here and there with no threats, BUT , if you can sight some danger, physically from an incident THEN you CAN file one. Interestingly enough….the counselor suddenly had a report of my daughter “cutting her off in traffic!!!!!” DIDN’T HAPPEN! My daughter is about to graduate from college and this will RUIN her opportunity to begin her life with a career she’s worked so very hard for. She was served this morning (THURS) and the “hearing???” is MONDAY!!!! QUESTION 1- Can my daughter get an order against this counselor in the state of WV without a physical danger, (like a car incident)?? I can find no information on this at all. QUESTION 2- With no threats, (none cited in the order…just that she was at a restaurant where the counselor was, in front of them at church….order said “there are plenty of other seats….MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY IF IT BOTHERS HER THAT MUCH (very Christian behavior, I might add) is a judge likely to enforce or declare this official? She’s never threatened or said a mean word to ANYONE….she’s a youth group leader, model citizen, loved by her peers and professors…..Something WHACKY is going on with this counselor and it’s about to destroy my daughter’s life.She is beside herself and sliding into a serious depression of hopelessness and despair …it’s horrible. QUESTION 3- If this order is finalized, and this counselor has some mental issues of her own and decides to make up that my daughter followed her into a restaurant OR what if they are both in WALMART unbeknownst to the other and the counselor sees her and has her arrested?????? My daughter has , for the past 2 months, circled every public place she’s entered repeatedly to make sure she doesn’t see that familiar car…She lives in terror of this exact thing happening. She calls us before leaving her house saying “I’m going to such and such restaurant or store” Ijust wanted to tell you before I left the house in case SHE is there….I planned to go to this place, I’m so scared she’ll be there……..Please help with advice, especially regarding WV laws if you can help me find that. LASTLY, HOW would I begin a search on this counselor to see if she or her husband (whom I believe is behind this for some strange reason) have a habit of filing these orders?? (By the way, they followed her to practice the other day and drove past 3 times……out of their way…not someplace they ever go…..this is not the first time SHE’S been followed by them)
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Any advice? I have tried to find an attorney today, but no one can appear on this short of notice. It becomes a “he said /she said” situation with a “pillar of the community-counselor” and an ex patient, young girl (with zero history of any conflicts ever….with anyone) My wish would be to convince this woman to formally mediate this situation and come up with some guidelines that would make her comfortable, as they both live in such a small town and being in the same place at the same time is inevitable, it always happens with MANY folks. This order of “300 ft” could potential make it impossible for my daughter to attend classes at her school!!!
This is an “order of protection” The magistrates office told me it’s not even filed on the computer, but kept in a paper file in a desk, but I have a hard time believing there will not be some record somewhere that can be accessed when my daughter applies for her first jobs in December. Also, 2 years and 300 ft are the maximum…that seems extreme with no threats or negative verbal or physical interactions…I just don’t know how to evoke the voice of reason in this situation : /
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First thing—and this is important—your daughter hasn’t been provided enough time to prepare her defense and should move for a continuance: “Your Honor, I move for a continuance on the grounds that I was only served four days ago, am completely at sea with this and haven’t had any time to prepare, and would like to confer with counsel and/or investigate the possibility of obtaining legal representation. I would also like the opportunity to gather character references and witness testimony.” There’s unfortunately no time to file a motion, though it’s possible that your daughter could do so the day of the hearing (by calling or going to the courthouse). Otherwise, she’ll have to move the court during the proceeding itself. Basically, she’d be asking for a postponement or extension. Second thing—no, there doesn’t seem to be grounds for a claim of stalking against your daughter since all of the encounters were public and very plausibly coincidental in such a small town, though in some jurisdictions restraining orders may be awarded simply on the basis of someone’s saying, “I’m afraid” (no kidding), and the counselor could lie, lie, lie. There’s no guessing what she could fabricate. She could say she found your daughter in her bedroom rifling through her underwear drawer. Don’t count on proof being essential; impressions are huge. Third thing—you’d have to consult a lawyer about this, but it seems to me that a counselor has a professional responsibility not to cause her patients psychological trauma. Fourth—if you know the husband’s name, you can go to the webpages of local courthouses (for example, city and county and any past cities and counties you know these people to have resided in) and perform a case search using that name. Chances are even the last name will be accepted (sometimes people use different variants of first names, like “Mitch” and “Mitchell,” sometimes first names are misspelled, and sometimes people are under their middle initials, also). Fifth—your concern that your daughter would be completely vulnerable to any story this woman could concoct in future is a very valid one and one that’s shared by all victims of hysterics, neurotics, attention-seekers, and pathological liars who seek restraining orders. Sixth and lastly for now—you’d have to consult your state’s restraining order laws to be sure (Google “West Virginia” + “restraining order laws”), but chances are your daughter could counter-file a restraining order against the counselor for stalking her, and she has nothing to lose by trying, either way. In fact, she could apply on Monday. Your daughter would allege she’s being followed, is afraid to leave the house lest this woman show up and then accuse her of following her, and that this woman (her counselor) knows the most intimate ins-and-outs of her life and is bent on destroying her. If your daughter can legitimately claim to feel terrorized or afraid for her safety, that should be communicated, too, besides her feelings of depression and despondency. Also if she feels her counselor has become fixated on her. Emotion-based claims are often more persuasive than evidence-based ones (everything to do with restraining orders is backwards law and backwards logic). It’s an outrage that someone in this woman’s position would do this, and I’m sorry for you guys. Persevere. Just be very aggressive in asserting your daughter’s rights and innocence, because if you depend on common sense, reason, or truth to see you through, you’re likely to be let down. And do get a lawyer if possible.
FIRST THING MONDAY, PRIORITY ONE: Get that continuance (postponement). This is critical. Appeals hearings may be granted no more than 30 minutes, and your daughter may well get the shaft if she’s forced to improvise a defense on the fly. Attempts to remedy a miscarriage of justice after an appeals hearing has gone sideways are all but futile.
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From what I’ve read, a “protective order” in West Virginia is intended to stop domestic violence.
Here’s Article 27 of Chapter 48 of the West Virginia Code (WVC §48-27):
http://www.legis.state.wv.us/wvcode/ChapterEntire.cfm?chap=48&art=27
Here’s some info on how stalking/harassment is defined in WV:
http://www.fris.org/StalkingandHarassment/StalkingHarassment.html.
As you can see, the rhetoric in all of these laws and on all of the websites that explain them is that restraining orders are only sought against people plaintiffs are afraid of. This is how this racket is preserved.
What your daughter best has in her favor is that she’s a girl and that she had a business relationship with this woman.
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Cool thanks for the info. Whats the likelihood that if they brought it to another court they could win? That would be like one judge going against another.
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If they tried a second time to get a restraining order based on exactly the same facts, you could invoke the doctrines of res judicata and/or collateral estoppel. These basically say that something that’s been judged before has been judged for good. The problem, of course, is that the restraining order process is fast and loose, and a plaintiff can easily manufacture new or completely different allegations. A man whose ex-wife was an attorney wrote last year that his ex-wife sought multiple restraining orders against him when she learned he was remarrying (insert hissing cat noise here). Her first restraining order was vacated on appeal, which didn’t discourage her a bit. So there are definitely work-arounds. It just depends on how dedicated this person is to hurting you.
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Can someone get another restraining order if the first one was dismissed because of lack of evidence. Is there different levels of restraining order? Or If they somehow found evidence could they open another case about this?
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It really depends on this person’s persistence. There’s no oversight with this process. One person can make back-to-back applications for restraining orders against another person or even apply for orders from different jurisdictions (e.g., city and county). The restraining order abuser won’t be scolded or ordered not to apply for restraining orders. And standards of what meets “sufficient evidence” can vary widely among judges, because award of restraining orders is pretty much a discretionary call. For some judges, “I’m scared” is enough to justify a restraining order’s being issued against someone the judge may never meet.
There aren’t different levels of restraining order, no, which is one of the objections to this process. The guy who texts his girlfriend too much (or who didn’t even do what he’s accused of) is lumped in with the guy who likes punishing his wife with a belt buckle. There can be different forms of order in one locale, as in mine, where there are “Injunctions against Harassment” and “Orders of Protection.” The significance of each is supposed to be different, but the same allegations can be (and are) made on both. In fact in my jurisdiction I want to say the only thing that makes an application for one order or the other is which box is ticked.
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There is a chain of stores around here that have a huge turnover rate for employees and managers. Local management has the habit of pushing them to the breaking point, having a “Well why don’t you just quit” argument, then filing a restraining order on the person(s). Is this legal?
In Alabama
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Definitely it sounds unethical. On what grounds does the store obtain restraining orders?
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To my understanding, because they push employees to quit on the spot: its along the lines of being disruptive or causing trouble
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I guess if you could establish that abuse of legal process were store policy (good way to get out of paying severance) or that employees were baited or egged on intentionally, there might be grounds for legal action. A group of employees who were treated this way might have the basis for a lawsuit (wrongful termination, coercion, etc.).
Unfortunately, when it comes to these instruments, the question “Is this legal?” is less meaningful than “Can you get away with it?”
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You make me laugh which, of course, makes me smile. SIGNED: One of your fondest pen pals.
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I am back, not quite myself, but at least ready to communicate. I never was really into crosswords puzzles, I do like words. As I have gotten older and a little bit wiser! I enjoy looking up things I don’t know. So you are not only an abuser you are a thief! I am sure your grandmother was delighted to find that you had such an interest. Who wouldn’t? A child with a curiosity for knowledge. I will attempt a few crossword puzzles while I am sunning myself in this horrid August heat. Do brains melt or is it just a melt down I feeling.
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I live in the Sonoran Desert. Brains sometimes just spontaneously explode here. It’s totally gross.
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Going south for a few weeks, perhaps a sun burn is what this woman needs to take her mind and spirit away from these “jagged” mountains of despair. Hope your situation has seen some light at the end of the tunnel. Know, you are in the deepest part of my soul, where no evil or negativity can reach, they have computers down south!
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Had to pay 80.00 to file restraining order which was discontinued by the judge. Now this was filed for my father in-law (84yrsold) property stolen from him. We feel judge only based his ruling on theft of items and NOT safety concern we had of this person harming him.what are our options. Do we lose our 80.00 filing fee? We were VERY disappointed with this judge! TY in advance (ART)
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Art, are you saying you paid a fee, filed a restraining order, and that order was refused by the judge? Quashed on appeal?
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TY for your reply We filed the order 1. to keep this person off my father-in-laws property,as he did steal personal property. 2.We feared for our father-in-laws safety. this was a temporary order the judge refused to make it permanent as he stated this should be civil matter but he did not discuss the safety part of the restraining order and this cost my father in law 80.00 can we appeal his decision? if so how do we approach this? TY again (
Art)
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You could call and run this past some attorneys, Art, for no cost. Just call, explain the situation, and ask them if you can appeal. It’s possible you could prepare a Motion for Reconsideration (Motion to Reconsider), and present this to the original judge. You would explain whatever it is you don’t think the judge fully appreciated and explain why he should reconsider his judgment. Or you could possibly appeal the decision to the Superior Court, which might involve more money.
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Ok TY will do!! appreciate your time!
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THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!I am not going to burden you with details at the moment, but know that I have met someone who is standing beside me in this nightmare, that has unfolded. My neighbor has done the ultimate and I am out on bond and totally at her mercy, which she has none. It will only take her word to have be spend from now until Sept. 19, behind bars. So I am expecting that to happen. I have not been home nor do I plan to go anywhere near there until after that date. A lawyer will not be able to undo anything until the 19th. So my course of action is stay as far away from where her false accusation will say I was. Yes my civil rights are being violated but until I get my day in court I can do nothing else. This person, man who I met on a blind date (thank God he and you can SEE me!) thru a man who liked me just from our interactions when I worked at local restaurant a few years back. The man is his brother-in-law and we hit it off and then two days later I had to swallowed my pride and reached out to him because he would not want it any other way. I had the bond monies available but I knew I he would feel disappointed and hurt if I didn’t reach out to him after the few hours of conversation we had had. We had talks about my crazy neighbor and how I wanted to leave this area. He was there in a heart beat and I have been staying with him as he’ll have it no other way. His sister and brother-in-law are with me also and I can’t thank them enough. they will be there as character witnesses and anything else they can do for me, whether this man and I go beyond where we are at now. They have credibility in the community and it will put the lawless legal people on their heels. I know that YOU would be that this man/person at this moment in time if you were here in the flesh and please know I that there is no doubt in my mind that I would not have had to swallow my pride to reach out to you. And I no longer have to swallow my pride with this man. I believe the Creator has put him here in your place, as where you are at you were too far for me to reach out to. BUT your words and your flowering rock garden are forever burned into my soul and heart. keep minding that garden, will stay in touch with just a “Hey” as long as the Creator allows.
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Hang in there, Mary. God bless.
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I’m a word lover, too. Favorite class of all time, Mr. Bates and his Greek and Roman derivatives curriculum. He put action, excitement and adventure into his teachings. What a teacher!
On the RO front, I didn’t get a DVRO, but rather an oral Stay-Away order that has to be converted from the transcript to the written order. It was a battle of the wits against a Narcissist. Because of what is yet to come, I feel that should he return, as all Narcissist do, at least I am covered. I didn’t walk out feeling victorious, my heart was heavy, but business was taken care of. The high point was the admission of the nature of the relationship that evolved from never having had contact with me, to a friendship only, to the legitimate eligibility for the DVRO. The Judge was amazing. She made the outcome be better than I could have devised. By not being a CLETS-DVRO, it was a win-win, though will instantly be a DVRO if he attempts contact. No one won …
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That’s among what I’ll always resent most about legal shenanigans: they steal your ability to quietly reflect, gently ponder, or idle with ideas. You lose your serenity. They make you vigilant, distrustful, and nihilistic.
I hope you regain some equilibrium now.
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I was told that I need to be challenged and I must say you have been doing that. Perhaps I need to be in more book stores! After having to look up the meanings of a few words, I realize that my life is far removed from the intellectual world. But that’s okay. I have known many college professors and “on my way to a career” people and my path has led me away from their structured reality. The word “intrepid” I related to a ship! When I looked it up last night, I thought I was reading a definition of who I thought I WAS. Facing the reality of how the negative energy doing battle with me had left me feeling less then who I am. I was embarrassed to see who I had become. Where did I go? I appreciate you even more now, knowing that I needed your presence (and a dictionary) in my life at this time. If any of my words to you, assist you in rediscovering your inner self and strengths, know that your few words and photo of a flowering rock, have done more for me then you’ll ever know. Strength in Numbers!
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Sorry for the delayed response, comrade. I’ve had some fishy things going on at my own home. A stolen vehicle among others.
I got turned on to words in my teens. My teacher (I spent most of my high school career with him) encouraged us to absorb new words, and we spent most afternoons after classes hunched over a crossword puzzle with him. He was one of the most distinguished journalism advisers in the country. Really, though, my “intellectual pursuits” were independent of school. I read a lot and always investigated the words I didn’t know. At about 23, I started studying literature at college, and I found I had a broader knowledge of words and even word origins than most of my peers just from being a regular visitor to my grandmother’s Merriam-Webster’s (which I pretty much stole). It’s really as simple as looking up unfamiliar stuff.
I don’t have many positive things to say about universities, anymore, either. A lot of what we’re talking about in this forum has its origin in trends and currents that emanate from the academy.
Try some crosswords, Mary, for a challenge. Just the “baby puzzles” in the local paper to start. You’ll get sensitized to words and maybe catch the bug. Do as much as you can then use a crossword puzzle dictionary to fill in the rest (or check the answers the next day). You’ll get bored with these after a while. Then try the NY Times puzzles. That’s my nerd prescription to you!
Your encouragement and kind words have absolutely been a consolation to me, and I know better than I could impress upon you what you mean about not knowing who you are anymore. It’s horrible how these processes can work you over and hijack your life.
I see you, Mary. I don’t think anyone who has a brush with this stuff is ever quite the same, but you don’t seem diminished to me.
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The Creator willing I might take you up on that. Point me towards the Mexican food and I’ll leave the bookstores to you. So far no new knocks at the door. Do I dare to hope! She has turned her attention towards my friend who now has a court date on the 18th, My friend came by one afternoon for lunch and a month later got a letter stating she needed to pay 150.00 within two weeks for damages that never occurred. Could this be the straw that breaks the camels back! It will certainly prove my side, of being harassed as she is now lasering in on another young at heart senior citizen. Flowers are responding to light heartedness. Do rocks blossom?
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How bizarre. It’s always the spouses of people like this who pique my curiosity. What do they tell themselves? I’ve met a few women like your neighbor over the years. Outwardly sensitive people with lots of repressed frustration and resentment. Then it’s as if something activates them and they become aggressively assertive, domineering, bullying. Calls to police, threats of lawsuits. They won’t be pacified. It’s like something inside snaps.
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I love you !!!!! Kindred spirits are found in the most unlikely places. I will tend to my flowers with a lighter heart. Knowing that somewhere there is someone tending to HIS rock garden, hopefully, with a lighter heart.
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Thanks, Mary! I think you’re lovely, too. If you’re ever in Tucson, let me know. I couldn’t tell you a thing about restaurants, but I could point you toward all the good bookstores!
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Like I said, I am more human then gender. I hold no loyalty to either sex as I am well aware of the games they play on each other. And the husband, of course, he may be caught in the middle, how would you stop your wife if she’s on a mission. The introductions and pastry were done two years ago. I did what the neighbors did for me when I first moved there, I went over and introduced myself. Told them they could use my driveway to enter and exit if they liked but not to leave their kids toys in it. Didn’t think that was too much to ask. I was disappointed when only the husband was home when I did this, but I was already at the door. The lawyer to answer the restraining order papers will only cost me $250 for the contact with the courts. Since there was no hearing date put down for me to go to court I don’t know what’s going on. If the court house is jerking me around or the restraining order wasn’t issued by the judge she went before the morning of the 29th. But the sheriff said I should write an answer to the clerk of court within ten days, when he served me the night of the 29th. When I spoke with the clerk in the morning of the 31st, she said they never give a hearing date until after the plaintiff goes before the judge first. Not at all what happened last time. I had a hearing date and later found out she had a hearing date the day before my date? This new one had no comment by a judge. The clerk said it a formality to notify a defendant if there had been a restraining order asked for whether issued or not. That’s sound pretty dangerous to the person who made the complaint and didn’t get the order. Is that really how restraining orders go? A defendant gets notified either way? Please don’t ever take anything I say offensive. I am indebted to you and your compassion for the rest of us troubles souls and would never want you to think otherwise. And I will never take offense to any reply you give me I appreciate you even listening to me. If I have to go before another court, I will go by myself and ask for a continuance and then work with the attorney to bring truth to light.
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That’s a relief to me, Mary. You never know how things come across in e-communications, and these are such touchy subjects.
Not surprisingly, a lot of queries that bring people here are about restraining orders taken out because of text messages or Facebook stuff. Ridiculous.
I didn’t know a defendant got notified either way. That’s good to know. I really hope that means “round two” got the thumbs down from the referee.
I’m like you. I like my quiet and solitude. You realize how vital maintenance of all these social connections becomes when something like this happens. I’ve recently been cataloging all the judges and lawyers I know or have been close to (or worked for) over the years. I should have been sending them holiday cards all this time!
Keep me posted, Mary, and let me know if I can help in any way. And don’t neglect those flowers!
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Answer to own inquiry recalled and now shared. There is a standard Judicial Council form “Notice of Related Case” (CM-015).
FORM CM-015 HAS THE FOLLOWING CHECK OFF BOXES:
(1) involves the same parties is based on the same facts or similar claims.
(2) arises from the same or substantially identical transactions incidents, or events requiring the determination of the same or substantially identical questions of law or fact.
(3) involves claims against title to, possession or damages to the same property.
(4) is likely for other reasons to require substantial duplication of judicial resources if heard by a different judge.
Hopefully we will get to skirmish before the same Judge, again, eh 4 out of 4 … Wonder if this descision is up to the discretion of the court filed at? Like this could have/should have been handled simultaneously?
RESULTING QUESTIONS:
(1) Could pursuing a retaliatory RO be considered “harassment,” in and of itself? To get this type of FREE RO would require involving violence, threats of violence or stalking to save of $435 — none of which took place as already reviewed by the court and on the record.
(2) Thus, could this be construed as “fraud on the court” to try to wrangle something for FREE? Thanks.
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If you believe you have grounds for seeking a restraining order, a judge will either approve it or not. If it were approved, then it’s unlikely it would be dismissed as “harassment.” If it weren’t approved, though, and the defendant were notified that you applied for and were denied a restraining order, it’s something that could be brought up, I guess. I don’t think a judge would accept the fraud on the court argument to grant you a freebie, but who can say? Certainly the judge isn’t likely to punish you for counter-filing, and you will have a free opportunity to ask a judge some questions at the least.
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Quick question — If there was a California DVRO action on file already ajudicated, would the same venue be required for related actions? Meaning would any residual cross-action be required to go to the original venue? Thank you.
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Yes, the female bashing was noticed, but because I am more human then gender, I have overlooked that and accept the site for what it is, Helpful; and again thank you for sharing your story with the rest of us and giving us all a place to vent. I read about dispute resolutions and even contacted the local court house in hopes they might have something like that, but nope. I thought if she could tell me what it was that really had her annoyed with me, long before the livestock situation, it might help. I might even find that I needed to apologize. Buts since the last time I wrote, her sociopath tendencies have come out full force. No more hiding behind subtle actions, she is on a mission. I only hope that the authorities will see how crazy she is becoming and her husband who obviously is part of this madness. Oh did I tell you he was a Male. A little pay back. I have decided to get a attorney, let him handle it. I need to find some sanity, the emotional drain has me exhausted. I hate going home, don’t know who’ll knock on my door, my close friends can’t really help and I need them more then ever. Everyone says don’t talk to her. I don’t communicate with these people I just come home water my flowers on my deck, they are so pretty. I sometimes wish they were rocks, so I didn’t have to go home and water them. I am a rock, I am an island isn’t that what Paul Simon sang. I use to love that song.
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If you mean by “female bashing” the subjects of the latest few posts, know that they’re actually older posts that I’ve had to revise to comply with the court and reposted as a group. If you think there’s any unfair criticism from me or anyone else, don’t hesitate to say so.
The fact is that these processes were created to respond to (or pacify) feminist demands, and the bias that obtains in them 30 years later is toward women, who are of course their predominant users. What “feminist” means to you as a 65-year-old means something very different than it does to the feminist establishment of today. The terms equity feminist and gender feminist define the distinction, which is between those who advocate for equal recognition for all and those who are pretty much female supremacists (“The Sorority”). It’s like in Orwell’s Animal Farm: You become the tyrant you opposed.
Again, Mary, no offense, but the husband could be going along to make sure none of the wife’s rage tilts his way.
I know exactly what you mean: this poisons your environment, things lose their savor just by association with the source of the poison. Every time I go through this again, collecting my mail makes me feel sick, and I never know what new surprise is in store.
A lawyer will probably charge you between $800 and $3,000 for a letter. Maybe if you found one who was a decent person, s/he might be able to bridge the gap. These things are so hard, because even if one party tries to reach a detente, the other party can turn around and represent these gestures however s/he wants. This can be made to sound very sinister by a calculating person, Mary. A phone call can be grounds for a man to be arrested when a woman has represented him as a “danger.” That’s the objection that tends to create the impression of misogyny. So things escalate, fester. It’s horrible. And it can go on for years.
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I used to love that song, too: “I have my books and my poetry to protect me.”
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Some one wrote of a Sociopath, that describes my Satin’s child neighbor. A young woman who has decided that her life is meaningless if she can’t cause emotional stress to me. A 65 and a half year old woman. Since she did not get the out come she wanted thru a false stalking charge, has now decided to try having me charged with animal cruelty. I have now met 6 local sheriffs at my door, they come in pairs. When the first ones did nothing about her accusations of my shooting her horse with a bb gun, she decided to call the national headquarters of Peta. They must not have moved fast enough for her because she then went back to courts with the most ridiculous accusations, from photographing her and her two little boys and that my security light lights up her yard and her deck area. At least now others are seeing the crazy person I have been dealing with over the last few months. Peta, who lets you know thru the mail that there was accusation of cruelty to animals levied against you. said they had discounted the complaint because it sounded too crazy. My neighbor said it was happening to my animals, and I don’t have any animals. But it was nice talking to the Peta representative in Va. I live in NC. Guess my neighbor didn’t think the local animal welfare agent could handle coming by and seeing for herself how I was mistreating the animals I didn’t have. The light is staying on until the electric company can come out and put a pole light, street light, on my property, two of them. If she thinks my little flood light is bright wait until she see how her whole yard is lit up. I love the stars here in mountains but I love peace of mind more. This should also help her see Annie Oakley when she out shooting bbs at her horse and pets. The sociopath comes in, when yesterday she had her youngest, 7 years old, photographing my flood light in the day time. She’s a coward and if she was telling the truth about me, she actually put her child in danger. I have always felt I was dealing with a 13 year old and kept thinking to myself, when will she turn 14. I will be moving when I can sell my house, not going to spend my golden years in the fires of hell
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Sixty-five and a half cracks me up. I’m sorry this is still going on, Mary. PETA? That’s weird. I’ve lived on rural-ish properties for about 15 years now. Around horse people. And I’ll tell you, most of them are good folks, but about one in 10 is psycho. And another one or two are borderline. (No offense meant but always female.) Oddly, too, remoter places seem to draw exactly the kind of people you’re talking about. One of my neighbors isn’t too different. And it’s like they enjoy this stuff. Like it’s a grand adventure. They feed on the conflict and attention (even if it’s negative from all directions). It’s like they’re suddenly visible, and this is exciting to them. I’m guessing this woman is too neurotic just to call on the telephone and ask that everyone sit down and iron out differences? I mean, what’s really at stake here? From my perspective, it sounds like you’ve got some socially/emotionally arrested neighbors with passive-aggressive resentments that probably never would have arisen if people still did what they used to and went around to their new neighbors with something from the pastry shop.
I did some work for a couple years for a Tucson attorney years ago. One of the most humane attorneys I’ve ever met. He advocated for ADR (Alternative Dispute Resolution). I don’t know a great deal about how this works, if there’s a steep price attached to it, or much else except what I recall from reading his students’ papers. The idea is that a mediator helps two parties pacify their conflict.
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